Competetive auctions kill me

[vuroth]

[hv=d=s&v=e&s=s962hq97dkqjcq974]133|100|Scoring: MP

1♣ 1♥ 2♣ P

2♠ 3♥ P P

X P ?[/hv]

 

What should I expect partner to have from the bidding, and what, if anything, should I do?

[TylerE]

4♠ and signifigant extas.

[kenberg]

I'll bite. I am going to leave the double in and lead the king of diamonds. If partner has AKxx in spades and AKxxxx in clubs we can make 3N (trusting that the vul 3H places the AK of hearts) but I am not so sure about that sixth club. Moreover, it is at least possible we get 3H for 500. Of course it is also possible 3H makes. At imps I would worry more about 3H making, here I think I will go with the possibility that my rho has just made a mistake holding something like AKJxxxx of hearts and the ace of diamonds.

 

I don't regard the decision as obvious.

[hrothgar]

I'd leave the double in

 

If the opponents are remotely sane, the 1♥ bidder is sitting on

 

1. Long hearts

2. Enough defensive tricks that he was unwilling to make an immediate preempt

 

I'm going to take my plus

[helene_t]

I think this is a difficult choice between 3NT and pass. At IMPs I would take my money. At MPs I don't know. It is very likely that the field bids and makes 3NT while 3♥ goes for less than 800. With the post-mortem in mind I may be inclined to pass since partner can't blame me for that even if it's wrong :D But that's not the right way of thinking, of course. I probably should bid 3NT, somewhat depending on what I can deduce from partner's failure to bid 2♥ before, and RHO's style.

[RichMor]

[hv=d=s&v=e&s=s962hq97dkqjcq974]133|100|Scoring: MP

1♣ 1♥ 2♣ P

2♠ 3♥ P P

X P ?[/hv]

 

What should I expect partner to have from the bidding, and what, if anything, should I do?

1) Expect pard to have 5♣, 4♠, and a good hand.

 

2) Pass. Your side might have enough to make 3NT, might not. Looks like 3♥ is going down. Since 3NT is iffy, take the plus.

[brianshark]

I'm not sure I would have passed 3♥ on the round before (assuming 2♣ was not some sort of inverted minor raise). Now, I'd love to pass the Dbl but the stupid colours and the stupid scoring format mean I probably have to bid 3N to get my average! :D

[y66]

pass at IMPS and MPs.

[jdonn]

I would have doubled 3♥ the round before. I feel obligated to act with enough strength for game (not to say we definitely have a game.)

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

 

2S certainly showes values, but the length is unclear,

it is probing for NT.

It also showes add. strength, if you need a lower limit,

your min. reverse strength.

 

Given this, I am not very happy with Pass over 3H, this

is meek / tame or if you prefer chicken like.

I would make a pen. X.

 

Now the X showed add. values, and I would pass it out,

given the vulnerability, is enough to beat the ones , who

are bidding game.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[TimG]

I like raising minors more than most, but I would have bid 1N at my first turn.

[Fluffy]

What josh says, double the round before to put the pressure on partner :).

 

I would pass now.

[vuroth]

(assuming 2♣ was not some sort of inverted minor raise)

I thought inverted minors were off in competition. I would have said with limit raise or better I would bid 2♥.

 

Right? (Just checking.)

[vuroth]

I would have doubled 3♥ the round before.

I think I'm starting to figure this game out.

 

When I finally learn to use the red card properly, I'll graduate to ADVANCED.

 

When I then learn to use the green card properly, I'll graduate to EXPERT.

 

How does that sound? :)

[gwnn]

(assuming 2♣ was not some sort of inverted minor raise)

I thought inverted minors were off in competition. I would have said with limit raise or better I would bid 2♥.

 

Right? (Just checking.)

 

some good players use something like this non standard scheme:

 

1m-(1♥)

x=4-5 spades

1♠=0-3 spades, no good bid available, but doesn't want to pass

1NT=8-11 or so

2m=inverted raise, with a weaker hand you can bid 1♠ or 2♠ or 3m

2om=natural

2♥=6+ spades

2♠=mixed raise, i.e. stronger than 3m preempt but weaker than inv. raise

 

otherwise, you're right, 99% of invmin players play them off in competition

[keylime]

I leave it in at any form of scoring - this is one of those potential "respect the vulnerability" situations.

[jtfanclub]

1) Expect pard to have 5♣, 4♠, and a good hand.the plus.

I do not understand. Why does everybody expect opener to have 5+ clubs?

 

What would you bid with, say...

 

AKxx

xxx

Axx

AKx

 

It's a gorgeous 18, but aren't you kind of stuck for a call after 2♣? Unless you play that 2♥ shows this monster and doesn't agree on clubs?

 

They're vulnerable, I would think passing is automatic. If we were red and they were green, I'd have to think about it.

[RichMor]

1) Expect pard to have 5♣, 4♠, and a good hand.the plus.

I do not understand. Why does everybody expect opener to have 5+ clubs?

 

What would you bid with, say...

 

AKxx

xxx

Axx

AKx

 

It's a gorgeous 18, but aren't you kind of stuck for a call after 2♣? Unless you play that 2♥ shows this monster and doesn't agree on clubs?

 

They're vulnerable, I would think passing is automatic. If we were red and they were green, I'd have to think about it.

Don't know what everybody expects.

 

I expect pard to bid suits when pard has suits, else not.

 

This hand is either a double or a 2♥ cue. Depends on partnership style and/or agreements.

[brianshark]

Oh, I got the vulnerability mixed up. If they are vul and we are not then crystal clear to play 3♥ doubled methinks.

[helene_t]

Oh, I got the vulnerability mixed up. If they are vul and we are not then crystal clear to play 3♥ doubled methinks.

I made the same mistake. Agree with pass.

[jtfanclub]

Don't know what everybody expects.

 

I expect pard to bid suits when pard has suits, else not.

 

This hand is either a double or a 2♥ cue. Depends on partnership style and/or agreements.

Opps and director might be a little upset if you tried to double partner's bid.

[orlam]

1) Expect pard to have 5♣, 4♠, and a good hand.the plus.

I do not understand. Why does everybody expect opener to have 5+ clubs?

 

What would you bid with, say...

 

AKxx

xxx

Axx

AKx

 

It's a gorgeous 18, but aren't you kind of stuck for a call after 2♣? Unless you play that 2♥ shows this monster and doesn't agree on clubs?

I am new here and have seen a lot of good posts, but what is this doing here? Of course bidding suits shows suits, and making a cue shows a good hand. If you don't know that you should post questions, not advice, in the B/I forum.

[RichMor]

Don't know what everybody expects.

 

I expect pard to bid suits when pard has suits, else not.

 

This hand is either a double or a 2♥ cue. Depends on partnership style and/or agreements.

Opps and director might be a little upset if you tried to double partner's bid.

You are correct. I misread the auction. :D

 

I still expect opener to have an unbalanced hand with 5+♣ and 4♠ and better than minimum strength.

 

Else why bid Spades ?

[jtfanclub]

I am new here and have seen a lot of good posts, but what is this doing here? Of course bidding suits shows suits, and making a cue shows a good hand. If you don't know that you should post questions, not advice, in the B/I forum.

I asked a question, and did not give advice, except to say that pass was obvious given the vulnerability regardless of what partner's bid meant.

[TimG]

1) Expect pard to have 5♣, 4♠, and a good hand.the plus.

I do not understand. Why does everybody expect opener to have 5+ clubs?

 

What would you bid with, say...

 

AKxx

xxx

Axx

AKx

 

It's a gorgeous 18, but aren't you kind of stuck for a call after 2♣? Unless you play that 2♥ shows this monster and doesn't agree on clubs?

I am new here and have seen a lot of good posts, but what is this doing here? Of course bidding suits shows suits, and making a cue shows a good hand. If you don't know that you should post questions, not advice, in the B/I forum.

All of his sentences end with question marks...sure seems to me like he was asking questions.