Echognome Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 As I see your posts, you didn't choose 2♣ at all. Therefore I had and have no idea how you would intend to bid had you done so. Furthermore, if you did bid 2♣ and partner then bid and rebid hearts, the auction would (if you bid as I suggested) be at the 3-level.. at 3♥... so no-one is cue-bidding 4♠. I'm not really complaining, but if I bid 2♠ and partner bid (3♥) and rebid (4♥) hearts, then the auction would be at the 4-level, which is exactly what I said in my post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 I know one thing is clear. If I bid 2♠ and partner bids hearts next, I am not bidding 3NT. And the idea of bidding 3NT over 1♠ is just awful. I suspect I would start with 2♣ to see how the bidding develops. Playing in notrump is not going to happen unless partner suggests it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcurt Posted January 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Partner had x, AKTxx, KTxxxx, x so 6♦ was good and both slams were cold and good for a nice pickup. I bid 2♠ at the table, then 1♦-(1♠)-2S3♥-3NT?4♥-6♦P I immediately realized 3NT was stupid, 3♠ is much better in this position. About half the responders bid 2♣ on their first turn, the rest split between 2♠, Double, and other things, most calling it "obvious" or "wtp." Does this mean that "all hands with no good call invent a club suit" (like other auctions) or do we want to suggest some length or strength in clubs to partner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 About half the responders bid 2♣ on their first turn, the rest split between 2♠, Double, and other things, most calling it "obvious" or "wtp." Does this mean that "all hands with no good call invent a club suit" (like other auctions) or do we want to suggest some length or strength in clubs to partner?I do not invent a Club suit. I show 4+ clubs, and deny primary fit to diamonds, as clubs can still be the right denomination. Partner could be 5-4 or 5-5 in the minors, and that is easy to cater for with a 2♣ bid, that doesn't take up any space. It is simple, natural bidding. I would also respond 2♣ to 1♦, if LHO hadn't overcalled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 About half the responders bid 2♣ on their first turn, the rest split between 2♠, Double, and other things, most calling it "obvious" or "wtp." Does this mean that "all hands with no good call invent a club suit" (like other auctions) or do we want to suggest some length or strength in clubs to partner? I don't think we were all playing the same system. If 2♠ just shows a good hand without anything better to bid, it is completely obvious. If 2♠ shows four-card diamond support it's a misdescription, and IMO a greater misdescription than 2♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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