mtvesuvius Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 All Vulnerable, As Dealer, You hold: ♠ AT♥ QJ85♦ AKT643♣ A You open 1♦, partner bids 1♠, what do you bid?You have not discussed many sequences, but have agreed to play Lehbensohl over reverses. (There is a followup question too...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 This is a really good reverse. 2♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 If this isn't a reverse, then I don't know what is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 2♥ I have some extras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 2♥, with confidence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 2h planning on rebidding 3d...sometimes Ihave my full bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyDluxe Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 2♥. I'm interested to hear/see part two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 2♥. I have extras. So? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 2H, what is the follow up? With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 You have the interessting coice between 2 ♥ and 2 Heart.I follow the crowd and bid 2 ♥. And now?When Partner bids 2 Spade natural and forcing, I bid 3 ♣ 4 SF, asking for a stopper. When partner bids 2 NT Lebensohl, I hope weare on thesam wavelength about how to show a minimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianshark Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 2♥ wtp. After lebensohl, I think I will bid 3♦ to show extras, though this is less clearcut to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted January 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Partner now bids Lehbensohl 2NT. What do you bid now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyDluxe Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 I don't play leb here, but over 2NT* I think 3♦ looks about right. IIRC, that's a little extra and likely a 6 card suit. Seems to fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 sometimes Ihave my full bid. I bet you have, Mike :) Over 2NT I think 3♣ is enough. I have my full bid, too :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y66 Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Very hard for me not to bid 3N. But 3D describes my hand. So 3D, not forcing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted January 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 I also chose 3♦. Partner now bids 4♦. How do you interpret this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y66 Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 I wish I'd bid 3N. :) 5D now. Please pard. Have something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 I also chose 3♦. Partner now bids 4♦. How do you interpret this? Dunno. Which (if any) strong variants are there in this Lebensohl? Was 3♦ forcing? I think 3♦ was forcing and 4♦ therefore weak. So I must pass. Unless I have the agreement (as I do with Shogi) that there is no such thing as forcing to 4m - if 3m is forcing then it's game forcing. Suppose 4♦ is forcing. Now if we play the modern style in which we almost never open 2♣ with this kind of shape, I have to sign off now as I could have been much stronger. If this is close a maximum 1♦ opening, though, as people at my local club would say, then I can afford a cuebid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyDluxe Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 I'm with y66, now... 3NT was the alternative before, and I wish I had bid that. 5♦ with a wince. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 I also chose 3♦. Partner now bids 4♦. How do you interpret this? Forcing and a slam try. For me, 3D is nonforcing. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 2♥ then 3♦ over 2NT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 I also chose 3♦. Partner now bids 4♦. How do you interpret this? 3d not 100% forcing so 4d is stronger than 3nt or 5d or pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianshark Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 For me 3♦ is GF. Surprised by people who play it as NF. I thought the whole point of lebensohl is to be able to get out below game if responder has minimum and the reverser had a minimum reverse (ie. 16-18 or so). But when opener has a 19+ hand - a hand that was good enough to insist on game over a minimum 1-level response, he showed that by breaking the transfer to 3♣. So if 3♦ is GF, 4♦ should probably be a slam try. I guess that depends on what responder can have for his 2NT bid. Sometimes it is not only used as a weak escape but to show a different NT range if he follows it up with 3NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted January 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Partner thought 3♦ was NF, and so then 4♦ was intended as Invitational... I bid 5♦ and partner held: Q765 K2 J852 965. 5♦ made 5 for a good score, but I thought that 3♦ was forcing, and 4♦ was a slam try. I was just wondering if I was insane, or if 4♦ really should be a Slam Try. Thanks for all your responses, they are greatly appreciated. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y66 Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Your pard obviously read mikeh's tutorial on reverses, which suggests playing 3D as not forcing, then upgraded his hand after you rebid 3D. Nicely done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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