Two boards

[Helmer]

  [hv=d=n&v=b&n=skqj43hkj987d4c74&s=sa1062ha2daj85ckj3]133|200|Scoring: IMP[/hv]

 

North   South

1 ♠        2 ♦

2 ♥        3 ♣ (x)

3 ♥        3♠

all pass

 

I am south - I told my partner I was chocked over the pass, the 3 clubs even she maybe doesn't play 4th suit forcing - in any system I believe a new suit on 3rd level is gameforcing.

We do not have a direct 2NT bid as Jacoby or such.

I thought we played 4th suit forcing, as she is a very good player (expert).

I thought we still would be able to make slam, if she had singleton in clubs.

 

She said: I have minimum, my 2♥, and then 3♥.

I said its only showing your hand better, after the double of 3♣, you don't have to bid - so for sure you have 5-5.

 

Anyway - comments on the biddings please, remembering that we do not play 2NT forcing - and we might not play 4th suit forcing.

 

If I had known that - sure I'd bid 4♠, instead of only 3♠, but I thought I made a slam invitation.

 

Thanks, and here another one:

 

[hv=d=n&v=b&n=skqj43hkj987d4c74&s=sa1062ha2daj85ckj3]133|200|Scoring: IMP[/hv]

 

South  North

             pass

1 ♥        1 ♠

2 ♣        3 ♣

4 ♠        5 ♣

all pass - making

 

I can't understand the move to 5♣.

If there was only a 4-card spades - sure, but now there is a 5-card spades, and knowing partners distribution 3-5-1-4 - well why not play one level lower.

For IMPS doesn't matter about major or minor that much.

 

Many discussions about the biddings,

Why don't you jump to 3♣? -

ANS.: To give us better space to bid, we haven't found fit, and if you can't answer on 2♣ nothing lost - and it doesn't have anything to do with the end bid - does it?

 

But if you only have K93 in spades?

Well if I only have K93 - I'll bid exactly the same, and now 5 clubs might go down - because we might have 2 spade losers now + 1 diamond.

While in 4 spades it doesn't matter that much - the contract is still making.

 

(And yes - I didn't bid 3♦ as a new 4th suit forcing - as we haven't finished discussion the previous board) :unsure:

 

Thanks - enjoy

[Hanoi5]

Your partner doesn't seem so expert on the first hand she passed because she had 10 HCP (and opened the bidding) even though you made a FG bid. On the second one she should probably pass 4♠ but her suit was so poor that she preferred to see you go down instead of her.

[Codo]

Hand 1: When you have no jac2NT, you should have another hand to show strong hands, like 4sf, or even a strong 3 or4 Spade bid, anything is better then nothing.

 

Anyway, opposite any sane partner 3 Spade is game forcing.

But you could have done better too: After the double of 3 Club, you know that your values there are useless. Bid 4 Spade and reach game. When partner is strong enough (in High cards and bidding skills) he will make another move.

 

In hand two, you bid it fine and partner was silly.

The reason not to bid 3 ♣ however is different: You need to be stronger for this GF jump- not much but around 2 HCPS more.