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Beta version of Windows 7 has been already published. I think,it would be interesting to have a thread in which forums members (many of them have considerable knowledge in this field) will advise in the future about their opinions, experiences with this operating system.

 

Robert

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WinSupersite has an extensive review:

 

http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/Default.asp

 

From personal experience, I think it will likely be very popular. Laptop users will rejoice at the enhanced battery life and it's seems more responsive in general (vis-a-vis Vista). And not to mention, they fixed the UAC ("Do you really want the program to do this?") prompts.

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I'll respect your wishes to make this a Windows 7 thread but a recent "What the hell is this?" experience with Vista suggests that there might be a need there as well. I managed to cope with a little luck, but with no help from the Help.

 

I'll watch the thread with interest but I don't plan on using a beta version of windows unless I get paid for it.

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Over the years (Dos thru Windows to XP.....Our new machine is coming this week with Vista....) my hundred or so uses of the "help" function (persistence in this case has never paid) has only led to more frustration.

 

The other day, I had a question on Youtube and used the help function and got my answer on the first try!

 

Perhaps having an online dictionary of all of the contents of windows is not only ridiculous but inefficient and frustrating. New search techniques and references to other searches and question/answers seems to be the way to go.

 

M$ has always been slow on the uptake but that is the result of being so massive.

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Oh, new version of Windows, that means Vista might actually be stable and good by now. I think I will stay with XP for a year or so to see how bad this one is first.

 

Sean

 

PS: And it will probably require 8GB+ of RAM to run at a decent speed; they of the code bloat :P

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Yes, it's open to the public; from http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/beta-faq.aspx:

Who can download the Windows 7 Beta?

The Beta is free and available to the first 2.5 million people who download it, starting January 9, 2009. However, because Microsoft isn’t providing technical support for the Beta, we strongly recommend that only experienced computer users sign up.

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Yes, it's open to the public; from http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/beta-faq.aspx:
Who can download the Windows 7 Beta?

The Beta is free and available to the first 2.5 million people who download it, starting January 9, 2009. However, because Microsoft isn’t providing technical support for the Beta, we strongly recommend that only experienced computer users sign up.

yes was suprised found the link, after i had posted

I get the technet shipments they usually include major betas

but so far they havent inluded betas for this

 

so will probably download and install on a machine

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  • 9 months later...

I guess I'm in the minority here, but I've had zero problems with Vista. I've had it crash once, when I tried to use the incorrect driver with old hardware to see if I could get it to work. That was obviously my own fault. It annoys me that the old style help files don't work in Vista. Other than that... It's been perfect.

 

I will say it's almost never a good idea to install a new OS on an old machine -- Better to wait until you get a new one.

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I will say it's almost never a good idea to install a new OS on an old machine -- Better to wait until you get a new one.

I have read about some tests with W7 and older PC's. They run it without any problems even on an "old" 1GHz machines, various older lap tops, etc...

 

Robert

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Vista was so bad that it made me (a lifelong PC user) switch to a Mac. The PCs i still use i try to have XP on, but I my mac. Anyway, my parents are going to get a new laptop and I somewhat advised them to wait till 7 comes out. hope it works better than the bloatware microsoft shipped last.
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I can honestly say I've never encountered a problem with Vista. No blue screen of death or anything. Lucky? Am I doing it wrong or something?

No, but I guess you have a fast multicore processor, at least 3 GB-Ram and a reasonable 3D-Accelerated Graphic-Card.

 

Reducing the security settings, helps to get rid of the annoying dialogs to enter the administrator password.

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The only problems I have ever had with Vista is that one program that works on XP will not run on VISTA (some programs I had to put in compatibility mode). For what it is worth, the program will also NOT run on MAC's OS or other versions of LINUX. The second one is that for a while HULU software (I guess a version of Flash) would have mild problem occassionally if I went to full screen mode where I could no longer control the player with pause or go back to regular window mode. Choices were watch to end (in which case it ended normally and control returned) or use control-Alt-delete and kill the hulu window.

 

The Hulu thing appears fixed, and I have hope the software might run under Windows 7. I will let you know how I like windows 7, I am going to install it.

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I can honestly say I've never encountered a problem with Vista. No blue screen of death or anything. Lucky? Am I doing it wrong or something?

No, but I guess you have a fast multicore processor, at least 3 GB-Ram and a reasonable 3D-Accelerated Graphic-Card.

 

Reducing the security settings, helps to get rid of the annoying dialogs to enter the administrator password.

2GB ram. I went with a very cheap model, to be honest.

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Possibly I will be buying a new computer in the not too distant future. I read about problems but I don't have all that many, not serious ones anyway. Of course word is no doubt a real pain in tha ass on any OS, but I don't seem to have OS specific problems. I am writing this on a Vista powered machine, I often use an XP Pro downstairs. I am guessing that the problems occur when people want to do more complicated things than I do. Here on some things I do on both.

 

email of course

bbo of course.

LaTeX

Word if I must

Excel if I must

 

Here are things that I do only on my older XP (the Vista really is my wife's, although she would probably laugh if she heard me say so).

Mathematica (installed on the machine)

Transferring files from a remote machine (using SSH)

Run Matlab via VPN (some part of the program on my machine, guts elsewhere)

Convert pdf documents to, say, html using acrobat, edit them, convert them back to pdf.

 

Mostly I have no problems. Since firefox installed one of its later updates my gmail has been a little weird. Sometimes it won't load, especially when we switch accounts, and I have to click on the firefox settings tab and then click on gmail. This fixes it. Annoying but not fatal. (This probelm is only on the Vista, not the XP).

 

 

So I guess my question is this: If I replace my old XP machine with a newer one, say with Vista since probably no one knows yet about 7, am I apt to have problems doing the type of things discussed in the second list or are the problems more for those of you who do a lot of serious programming? I don't much do that.

 

One worry about vista: Like with many things frm Microsoft it seems reluctant to surrender control. Recently I scfewed the pooch somehow on the XP machine so that I could no longer switch between the three users I had set up. It was not that tough to find how to just revert to previous settings. I am clueless about how to do that in Vista. (I didn't know how in XP either, but a little exploration got me home).

 

 

So a more general question I guess would be: When people say Vista sucks, at what level are they talking about? What level user is apt to encounter the issues?

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