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[H_KARLUK]

[hv=d=e&v=n&s=skq63hk854d542cat]133|100|Scoring: MP[/hv]

1♣   1♥

1NT   ?

[rogerclee]

2n

[neilkaz]

2NT for me,,,not wanting to push into a flattish 24 pt 3NT, esp, at MP

[Fluffy]

I'd bit 3NT without a second though, field is gonna play game and so am I.

[nige1]

[hv=d=e&v=n&s=skq63hk854d542cat]133|100|Scoring: MP

1♣   1♥

1NT   ?[/hv]

IMO 2♣ (Crowhurst) = 10, 3N = 9, 2N = 7, 2♦ = 1, 2♠ = 1.

Crowhurst may help if partner would rebid 1N with say ♠ Jxxx ♥ Ax ♦ Axx ♣ Kxxx

[whereagles]

I'd bit 3NT without a second though, field is gonna play game and so am I.

Was going to bid 2NT only, but I confess you're probably very right :)

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

 

it is either 2NT or 3NT, I would go with 2NT,

but ... I dont mind 3NT.

Playing MP 2NT is clear, although I dont look

at the format, if I sitting on the table, and if

am faced with such a decision.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[mike777]

2nt or 3nt depending on what we open on.

With bbo pickup....3nt.

[HeavyDluxe]

3NT

[Winstonm]

I'd bit 3NT without a second though, field is gonna play game and so am I.

Can't you also beat the field with superior judgement and superior bidding skills?

 

I think this is really a close call and the lack of spots and shape make me lean toward 2N but the good control cards are undervalued in the point count.

 

Basically, this comes in as a solid 12-count for me - so 2N or 3N depending on opening styles.

[Fluffy]

Can't you also beat the field with superior judgement and superior bidding skills?

yes indeed, you are right, I am just used of my partner's card playing skills to be very superior to the field's, the better the field, the more I would think about 2NT.

[Hanoi5]

I think it depends largely on your agreements. Can your partner have a 4-card spade suit?

[brianshark]

Invite via whatever your checkback bid is, unless partner denied a 4 card spade suti.

[H_KARLUK]

[hv=d=e&v=n&n=skq63hk654d542cat&w=st82hq987dq76cqj2&e=sj75hjt2daj98c765&s=sa94ha3dkt3ck9843]399|300|Scoring: MP[/hv]

 

1♣    1♥

1NT  2♦

3♣   3NT

[neilkaz]

Invite via whatever your checkback bid is, unless partner denied a 4 card spade suti.

My PD's will bid 1♠ with 4 ♠ here unless 4333 and the ♠ are weak so 2NT for me, and of course with his 14 count he carries on to game.

[Cascade]

2NT invitational or checkback for me depending on whether partner has denied or not four spades.

[OleBerg]

I'd bit 3NT without a second though, field is gonna play game and so am I.

Can't you also beat the field with superior judgement and superior bidding skills?

That largely depends on the field. (In this case.)

 

If you are in a homogeneous strong field, you can count on field protection, and bid what you believe to be the best contract.

 

If you are in a mixed field, you have to be in 3NT, as many pairs will bid and make that contract. Even against very strong opponents you have to bid it, you just have to hope for some luck.

 

The actual hand is so flat, and devoid of intermediates, that I would invite in the aforementioned strong field.

[1eyedjack]

[hv=d=e&v=n&n=skq63hk654d542cat&w=st82hq987dq76cqj2&e=sj75hjt2daj98c765&s=sa94ha3dkt3ck9843]399|300|Scoring: MP[/hv]

 

1♣    1♥

1NT  2♦

3♣   3NT

not sure I understand the point of the thread. Regardless of whether or not 1N might systemically conceal a 4 card spade suit, on this hand he has not got one so you lose nothing by failing to enquire. And he is accepting an invite to 3N so it makes little difference whether you invite or bid game yourself as responder. And contract is cold on any lead so bidding it fast to conceal info seems to make no dif.

[rogerclee]

[1eyedjack]

Sometimes a decision can be interesting even if the choice doesn't matter! I am not sure this decision was very interesting, but maybe it was.

 

I agree with all of that. It just seemed that the followup posting of full hand by OP suggested that there was more of interest than the question in abstact.