TimG Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 1C-1D-3D seems a rather awkward sequence for WJ05 (showing 18+ to less than a game force). I wonder if there have been some modifications to relieve pressure here. A couple of options come to mind:Widening the range of the 1D opening bid.Using a 2D opening to show GF hands (thus 1C-1D-2D is no longer artificial).I wonder if anyone has experience with either of these modifications, or has other suggestions. Or, maybe you can tell me that while this appears to be a problem, in practice it seldom matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_c Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 We play a wide-ranging 1♦ opening (open 1♦ unless game-forcing), and I would highly recommend it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tola18 Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 Jassem mentions/recommends (perhaps only in his polish booklet), in borderline cases do open with 1D. Especielly if you have something remembering a twosuiter. 1. If opps preempts, it can be difficult to show both suits (btw, we have similiar problem in strong-club systems too!). 2. The Odwrotka positive relay 2D after the answer 1M may make it extra difficult to show it was diamonds you really did had... Partner must of course know the 1D MAY be somewhat stronger then promised. Otherwise you will now and then miss optimal contracts and get angry partners... About a GF-opening.2D GF takes away much of the soul of WJ... The twosuiters will probably disappear... But. There is the first, very old version of WJ, where 2C was "Acol", ie your friend GF opening.... Thus 1C could contain weak nt, short diamond Marmic, clubs, 18-21 pointers...This worked actually quite well. (There may also be some other polish system of similiar structure, NS?? I dont know very little about this, but something says me it could be similiar although also easier). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimG Posted December 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 About a GF-opening.2D GF takes away much of the soul of WJ... The twosuiters will probably disappear... ACBL's GCC already takes away the weak two-suited openings. I know: not a factor for everyone, but sadly it does apply to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wclass___ Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 I advise playing: 1♦ - 5♦+ 11-GF1♠ - 11/15 or 11/162♣ - 11/15 6♣+ or 5♣ 4♦(no 4♥/♠) Comments: Hate precision 2♣ opening in WJ. + Examined reasons (in WJ05 book)not to play 1♦ showing 5 are ridiculous. And it is not that useful for 1♦ to be limited say 11/17 as 1♥ or 1♠. 1♠ as 11/17 a bit too wide for my preferred system over 1♠. It is also possible to play 1♦ 2♦ in FN style... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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