shevek Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 Playing Acol, how do you open this chestnut from today (All vul, IMPs) ♠43 ♥AK752 ♦QT3 ♣AT8 ? Would your answer be different if 1♥ would show five? I know this is old ground but thanks in advance anyway.The views of this panel are helpful Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 It's relevant what range a 1NT opening bid would be."Acol" does not imply "weak NT" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flameous Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 I open 1NT whenever possible, meaning also 14-16NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shevek Posted December 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 It's relevant what range a 1NT opening bid would be."Acol" does not imply "weak NT"I could have made it clearer, 12-14 at all vuls.The EBU's "Standard English Acol" is a curious system.Apart from 12-14 throughout, it contains this "With two four card suits open the higher - except with H and S, open 1H." Are beginners really expected to open 1♠ with this: ♠J876 ♥A7 ♦KQ76 ♣AQ3 ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 Are beginners really expected to open 1♠ with this: ♠J876 ♥A7 ♦KQ76 ♣AQ3 ?? yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotShot Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 <rant>If you start putting even 5 card major suits into your NT opening, why do you call it Acol when you could describe it as Precision without a strong 1♣ opening as well?</rant>If you have 2 cards in every suit and argue you have a (semi) balanced hand (Yes that includes 7222!) and you want to open that with 1NT, it's fine with me (just don't call it Acol).Obviously given your system a (semi)balanced 1M opening will have 15+ HCP, rarely 4 more often 5 cards in that suit. If you are weaker this would be compensated with 6+ cards. I'm quite sure that the average ♥ length on a 1♥ opening of such a system is closer to 6 than to 4. So playing Acol this is definitely a 1♥ opener. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 Calm down hotshot, whether you open 1NT with a 5cM or not is just a style issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foo Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 Playing Acol, how do you open this chestnut from today (All vul, IMPs) ♠43 ♥AK752 ♦QT3 ♣AT8 ? Would your answer be different if 1♥ would show five? I know this is old ground but thanks in advance anyway.The views of this panel are helpful Nick If 1H-1S;1N shows extras, you open this 1N unless you are willing to rebid ♥'s. If it does not, you are playing a Strong NT here and can choose between1H-foo;2H and 1H-foo;1N Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 Playing Acol, how do you open this chestnut from today (All vul, IMPs)♠43 ♥AK752 ♦QT3 ♣AT8 ?Would your answer be different if 1♥ would show five?I know this is old ground but thanks in advance anyway.The views of this panel are helpfulIMO4-card majors: 1N = 10, 1♥ = 9, 1♣ = 2.5-card majors: 1N = 10, 1♥ = 8. 1♣ = 2.But, for 1N, more tenaces, including an honour in ♠ would be preferable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricK Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 Playing 12-14 NT I open 1NT. I would do this no matter what form of Stayman we were using. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 1H, followed by 2H. When I played Acol, we said, we make it depend onthe suit quality, to open 1H or 1NT. I once opened 1NT with AKQxx in hearts, afterwards, no discussion was needed to agree, that the suit quality would be sufficient to open with 1H, ...The end of the story: I prefer a style, which says, always open 1H or 1 NT.I want to be able to excersice judgement, if I see any need,but not with the first call. And actually I think, there is a lot to be said foralways opening 1NT, but I have to find a partner,who will like to play this way. Currently I play, that I always open 1H. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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