mtvesuvius Posted December 25, 2008 Report Share Posted December 25, 2008 Playing IMPs, NV vs V, you pick up: ♠ Q43♥ KQJ6542♦ --------♣ 852 Partner opens 1♠, and you play 2/1, but have not discussed any sequences... What do you bid? AJK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted December 25, 2008 Report Share Posted December 25, 2008 2h Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted December 25, 2008 Report Share Posted December 25, 2008 Compensating for your recent 15 card hand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimG Posted December 25, 2008 Report Share Posted December 25, 2008 I throw'em in and ask for a redeal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted December 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2008 2h and when partner bids 3♦? or 2NT or 3NT or 3♣ or forces to slam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted December 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2008 Compensating for your recent 15 card hand? Yes... another typo... Sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted December 25, 2008 Report Share Posted December 25, 2008 2h and when partner bids 3♦? or 2NT or 3NT or 3♣ or forces to slam? I actually didn't notice I had 12 cards, but I'm pretty sure I'm still bidding 2♥. I'm playing this hand in hearts with all likelihood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted December 25, 2008 Report Share Posted December 25, 2008 Playing IMPs, NV vs V, you pick up: ♠ Q43♥ KQJ6542♦ --------♣ 852 Partner opens 1♠, and you play 2/1, but have not discussed any sequences... What do you bid? AJK I will try 1nt...planning on rebidding 4h. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 I bid a direct 4♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 I bid a direct 4♥. I think I have too many hearts to do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 2H then rebidding 4H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 2♥. If partner raises, I bid 5♣ exclusion obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 2♥... I'll force to game and see what PD rebids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foo Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 Playing IMPs, NV vs V, you pick up: ♠Q43 ♥KQJ6542 ♦ ♣852 Partner opens 1♠, and you play 2/1, but have not discussed any sequences... What do you bid? Pard Opened 1S, and we have 3 ♠'s, a beautiful side source of tricks (very few suits are as good as that ♥ suit), and a wonderful ruffing value (voids are ~3x more rare than singletons). In a simple calculation, your hand is worth 8 HCP + 5 for the void= 13 Dummy points. But your hand is actually worth more than 13 Dummy points, say ~3 dummy points stronger for a total of ~15, because your ♥ suit will play for no more than 1 loser no matter what Opener's ♥'s are. If partner has ♠ A & K plus 2 side A's, We could be cold for a slam. You have far more than enough to make a GF 2/1.In fact you have more than enough to make a GF 2/1 and bid out your shape: 1S-2H;foo-3H;3N-4S is the most likely auction playing 2/1 GF and Fast Arrival. Playing SA, you can't afford to bid ♥'s 2x this way because 3H can be passed, so: 1S-2H;foo-4S is the probably the simplest way to try and describe your hand. I do not agree with the posters who do not ever intend to suppport ♠'s. While our ♥ suit is certainly good enough to insist on as trumps, a light game or slam could depend on Us having a double fit in the Majors. Opener is never going to be able to figure that out if Responder never raises Opener's suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 Not worth a partnership fight btw (not even around Christmas). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted December 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 I forced to game with 2♥, and partner held 13 cards (Hidden): ♠ AKJT5♥ ------♦ KJ82♣ Q764 So Partner bid 3♦, I bid 3♥, Partner bid 3NT and I bid 4♠ where we played it. With a little help from the defense, it made 4. My partner felt that my hand was too weak to 2/1, and that I should go through 1NT... I also didn't feel like I bid this correctly, so I thought I'd post this. AJK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foo Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 I forced to game with 2♥, and partner held 13 cards (Hidden): ♠AKJT5 ♥ ♦KJ82 ♣Q764 So Partner bid 3♦, I bid 3♥, Partner bid 3N and I bid 4♠ where we played it. With a little help from the defense, it made 4. My partner felt that my hand was too weak to 2/1, and that I should go through 1NT... I also didn't feel like I bid this correctly, so I thought I'd post this. AJK If you were my partner, I'd have no problem with 1S-2H GF on this board and would in fact expect it from you as a matter of course. Opener should rebid 2S, not 3D, with a minimum shapely hand. Particularly if it contains a singleton or, worse, a void in ♥'s (a big downward adjustment in their hand if ever there was.) Playing SA, if you should rebid ♥'s, Opener should pass. This is also why, even playing SA, your hand is not worth a 2/1 unless you have support for partner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 your partner should rebid 2S. That is nowhere near extras (which 3D should show) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted December 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 ok... Thanks. I also beleived that my partner's 3♦ was wrong, but my partner was 5 times my age, and he was not open to discussion... Anyway, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year :P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 Wow, would never bid 3♦ with those cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted December 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 Wow, would never bid 3♦ with those cards. Agreed. I wouldn't either... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 I would only support spades under extreme duress. My initial plan is to get to a game in hearts. I bid 2♥ and, if it is forcing, 3♥ (if not, 4♥). Foo commented that this hand has spade support and a good side suit as a source of tricks. Foo has it backwards. In spades, you have no guarantee that you will be able to use the heart suit as a source of tricks. There is no sure way to pull trump and cash the hearts. However, in hearts the heart suit is always a source of tricks and the spade suit should have ample entries to be used as a source of tricks. So I want to play this hand in hearts if at all possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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