The SAYC Death Hand

[TylerE]

[hv=s=sakxhxxdatxxxckjx]133|100|1♦ - (p) - ?[/hv]

 

Playing *STRICT*, by the book SAYC. Yes, I know Inv Minors/Crisscross insert your forcing raise method makes this trivial. That ain't what I'ma sking.

[awm]

2NT natural and game forcing.

[babalu1997]

2 clubs, then support diamond

[vuroth]

2NT natural and game forcing.

This.

 

Of course, a ton of players seem to play 2NT as 10-11 invitational. Hopefully you know which one partner plays. If not, maybe 3NT is safest.

 

I have to admit, as loathe as I am to adopt conventions, I've pretty much decided I can't live without inverted minors.

 

Vuroth (Intermediate)

[TimG]

What does 1D-3D mean in strict SAYC?

[vuroth]

Limit, I believe. SAYC:

RESPONSES TO A 1♣ OR A 1♦ OPENING

Responses and later bidding generally follow the ideas set down in the previous section.  (Responses to 1M)

There is no forcing minor-suit raise.

[TimG]

2 clubs, then support diamond

I'll pick this one.

[Fluffy]

I prefer to bid 1♠ to save some space, but 2♣ might work better, specially if partner can raise me with only 3 spades.

[Winstonm]

Upgrade this hand slightly and bid 3N. SAYC is supposed to be simple, not precise.

[HeavyDluxe]

2NT when I'm depressed. 3NT when I'm feeling no pain.

[Codo]

SAYC: Easy 2 NT (13-15)

SAYC as it is played on BBO: 3 NT (13-15)

:)

[cherdano]

2N if forcing. 2♣ otherwise, I hate 3N.

[hotShot]

Playing strict SAYC, without a forcing game rise in a the minors.

The method to go is a delayed game raise.

So 2♣ followed by a game raise or using 4th suit game forcing should do the trick.

[dburn]

1♦-2♣-2♦ - what now? 2♠, perhaps? One is almost tempted to splinter with 3♥ on the first round, when one contemplates sequences such as this.

[cherdano]

1♦-2♣-2♦ - what now? 2♠, perhaps? One is almost tempted to splinter with 3♥ on the first round, when one contemplates sequences such as this.

I think the delayed raise is forcing in SAYC. (Or rather, I think it should be and I have no clue whether it actually is.)

Merry Christmas in Eng-anything-that-could-be-nonforcing-is-nonforcing-land. :P :)

[mtvesuvius]

And how I hate SAYC!... If someone talked me into playing it with them, I would bid 2♣ and await developments.

[Rossoneri]

I prefer to bid 1♠ to save some space, but 2♣ might work better, specially if partner can raise me with only 3 spades.

Experience has told me that bidding 1♠ with 3 cards is asking for trouble, no matter how good the suit is.

[Gerben42]

2NT. Good one for the post-mortem!