nige1 Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 ♠ AKT9xx ♥ Qx ♦ x ♣ KQxx1S - 2H (GF)2S - 2NT3C - 3NT??Agree with the auction to date? Now what?IMO 4♥ = 10, _P = 5Playing natural methods, neither 2♠ nor 2N would be forcing; but I presume this should be in the 2/1 discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 whoa. natural methods? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichMor Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 ♠ AKT9xx ♥ Qx ♦ x ♣ KQxx1S - 2H (GF)2S - 2NT3C - 3NT??Agree with the auction to date? Now what?IMO 4♥ = 10, _P = 5Playing natural methods, neither 2♠ nor 2N would be forcing; but I presume this should be in the 2/1 discussion. Nigel, What about 4♠ ? If we expect pard to hold a balanced hand, game forcing values, and 5 Hearts then why is Hearts better than Spades? On the given auction, we may have an 8-card fit in Spades but we don't in Hearts. thanks,RichM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 Playing natural methods, neither 2♠ nor 2N would be forcing; but I presume this should be in the 2/1 discussion. Hmm? I don't think you know what the word 'natural' means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 I take issue with the comment that 2S is a "bad bid". For me and for many, 3C would show more strength. Ive said that if 2S is showing 6 i would bid 2S. If not 3C is surely better then 2S the hand clearly has enough values to bid 3C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 I agree with Ben: this hand is well worth 3♣, so 2♠ is only correct if it allows you to show six spades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted December 25, 2008 Report Share Posted December 25, 2008 Hmm? I don't think you know what the word 'natural' means.Some terms are defined implicitly or explicitly in laws and regulations; but IMOIn principle a bid is a contract to take a specified number of tricks in a specified denomination. Hence, IMO, a natural call should approve the current strain as a possible final contract. In contrast, the main message of an artificial call is independent of level and strain. A conventioal call conveys additional information, by agreement. A natural bid may become forcing by convention. For example, in America, some suit raises and rebids and some notrump bids are forcing, which are non-forcing in some other places. All artificial calls are conventional.I agree that most people regard:) Their own methods as natural. :rolleyes: Other's methods as artificial and of doubtful efficacy except in their capacity to confuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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