Trumpace Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 You are East and you hold AT742, 7, 95, AT984. Your LHO deals and preempts 2H and RHO raises to 4 (partner passes). Partner leads the club 3. You see : [hv=d=s&v=b&n=sj3hjt95dakqj63cq&e=sat742h7d95cat984]266|200|Scoring: IMPPartner leads ♣3[/hv] Plan your defense. Adv/+, please refrain from posting too soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vuroth Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 Ace, Ace, spade. I see all our winners going away really fast if we don't take them now. If partner doesn't have K♠ and a natural trump trick, I have no idea how we're going to do this. V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 Hint for vuroth: Maybe you can help out with the trump trick a little... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y66 Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 I'll try returning a small spade at trick 2. If declarer has the king, maybe he'll play me for the queen instead of the ace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyDluxe Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 I'm winning the club lead... If I lead a trump through declarer, we may be able to promote a ♥ winner. So, I guess I'd play ♣A, ♠A, then fire a trump through... I'm not sure we beat it, but it gives us a chance I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vuroth Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 I can't picture a trump holding partner could have that plays better with east leading than it does when north or south leads. Are we that worried about partner being endplayed in trump? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eros2 Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 I would give declarer credit for two heart honours and a spade honour (partner would surely lead from KQ) for his pre-empt. I win the Ac and return a low spade betting on a wrong guess if declarer has the king. Partner hopefully has Kx or Ax in trumps. Is this too obvious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpace Posted December 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 I would give declarer credit for two heart honours and a spade honour (partner would surely lead from KQ) for his pre-empt. I win the Ac and return a low spade betting on a wrong guess if declarer has the king. Partner hopefully has Kx or Ax in trumps. Is this too obvious? Well this is B/I problem and when this hand came up on BBO, of all tables with the ♣ lead, only 1 table seemed to have got it right, so perhaps it is not that obvious :) Also, there is (I agree, very minor) a consideration of what to do at trick 4. What would you return after winning the ♠A? (Assuming partner won 2nd trick and played a spade back). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpace Posted December 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 I'm winning the club lead... If I lead a trump through declarer, we may be able to promote a ♥ winner. So, I guess I'd play ♣A, ♠A, then fire a trump through... I'm not sure we beat it, but it gives us a chance I think. How do you expect to promote a trump trick by leading trumps through declarer? Won't he do it himself, i.e you don't actually have to lead it yourself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eros2 Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 Also, there is (I agree, very minor) a consideration of what to do at trick 4. What would you return after winning the ♠A? (Assuming partner won 2nd trick and played a spade back). I suppose there is a possibility that lefty rounded down to 2H with AQ 7th and a barren shape (2-7-2-2) due to the vulnerability. Therefore, partner has the stiff K♥. I exit with anything except a trump (it may telegraph the position). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpace Posted December 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Also, there is (I agree, very minor) a consideration of what to do at trick 4. What would you return after winning the ♠A? (Assuming partner won 2nd trick and played a spade back). ...I exit with anything except a trump (it may telegraph the position). Is there any suit in particular which might work out better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eros2 Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Is there any suit in particular which might work out better? No? All 3 choices end up in dummy. Partner cannot be void in diamonds - or we would not have been able to cash 3 black suit tricks. There is no way to promote a Qx trump holding opposite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Every player does not have strict shape requirements for a weak 2H opening. Can you think of a possible shape for declarer where it matters what suit you play at trick 4, after ace of clubs, spade to partner's king (or queen if declarer mis-guesses), spade to your ace? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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