suit or NT

[haver]

1. after opening 1Cl/1D with 5 card suit - 11-14 HCP and getting the 1H/1Sp response - what do you bid:

1NT or 2Cl/D..., and does it depend on if responder was a passed or nonpassed hand?

2. after responding to 1Cl/D with 5 card suit 6-10HCP 1H/Sp and getting 1NT re-response - what do you bid:

Pass or 2 of your suit..., and does it depend on if you were a passed or nonpassed hand?

[pbleighton]

My opinion -

1) Doesn't depend on passed/non-passed. Depends on the quality of you suit. With 4 of the top 5 or the AKQ I would rebid my suit. With less I would bid 1 NT.

2) As a non-passed hand I would rebid my suit if it was strong (see above), and pass if it wasn't.  As a passed hand I would pass, except with a strong suit AND I was at the top of the weak range (10 or a good 9).

[inquiry]

1. after opening 1C/1D with 5 card suit - 11-14 HCP and getting the 1H/1Sp response - what do you bid:

1NT or 2C/D..., and does it depend on if responder was a passed or nonpassed hand?

 

You left a few things out, so I assume you meant something like 5-3-3-2 distribution. Where 2 is not in partners suit. For if I had three card support, the option to raise to 2H/2S would also be available. I would raise with three cards and a minimum type hand. So for instance, 1D-(p)-1H-(p)-2D is pretty much always a six card suit. With 4S or 4C I would bid that suit. With three card support I would tend to raise (unless with extra values).

 

In my case, the 1NT rebid, especially if partner is a passed hand, would be more typical. I don't need stoppers in both of my 3 card suits.

 

"2. after responding to 1Cl/D with 5 card suit 6-10HCP 1H/Sp and getting 1NT re-response - what do you bid: Pass or 2 of your suit..., and does it depend on if you were a passed or nonpassed hand?"

 

With a five cards suit I would pass. Why, see above, since I expect my partner to raise with three cards support on many hands (yes, I know this is not a popular treatment - most people require four cards for this raise). If you raise with three card support when weakish, then over NMF, you can then rebid 2 of your partner suit with a doubleton honor (otherwise you need three card support) or jump to 3 of the major with three card support, as you will also have the promised extra value. Also, if the bidding goes 1D-(p)-1H-(p)-1NT-(p)-2D-2H is safe type of bid, as it shows three card support plus extra values (to "good" for 2H originally given the 1NT rebid).

[redguard2]

Great Question!

You actually touch one of the most important points in SAYC.

 

There are 6 key points:

1) pass instead open bid.

If with such a hand

S ××

H ××

D KJ××

C AK×××

 

2) rebid 1NT

S ××

H ××

D KQ×

C AKJ×××

 

1C 1H

1NT

 

3) support P's suit

S ×

H ×××

D KQ××

C AKJ××

1C 1H

2H

 

4) rebid 2c only you have 6 card suit

S *

H Q**

D K××

C AQJ×××

1C  1S

2C

 

5) (some experts) will rebid 2C with such a hand instead above hand.

S K××

H A××

D ×

C AK××××

because they do not want to miss 3NT when P has

such a hand.

 

S A**

H ****

D J10**

C Q*

 

6) change your system(or part of your system) .

Many experts prefer this way.