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Playing SAYC you come accross this beauty:

 

Txx

QJ

Txx

AKQT6

 

Bidding goes:

1 2

2 2

4NT 5

5 6

6 ???

 

Your partner asked for Key-Cards and the Trump Queen. What is 6 and what will you bid?

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Playing SAYC you come accross this beauty:

 

Txx

QJ

Txx

AKQT6

 

Bidding goes:

1 2

2 2

4NT 5

5 6

6 ???

 

Your partner asked for Key-Cards and the Trump Queen. What is 6 and what will you bid?

I grant this bidding is totally insane

2c=insane

2h=more insane

rest if possible more insane.

 

 

 

What happens if the bidding goes 1h=1nt?

I bet this is not an issue!

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6 is simply his only grand slam try available, it says we have all the keycards and doesn't say a whole lot beyond that. I think the heart jack and running clubs will get me to bid 7, obviously he 'should' have a very good hand to jump to blackwood like that instead of investigating at a lower level.
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Playing SAYC you come accross this beauty:

 

Txx

QJ

Txx

AKQT6

 

Bidding goes:

1 2

2 2

4NT 5

5 6

6 ???

 

Your partner asked for Key-Cards and the Trump Queen. What is 6 and what will you bid?

I grant this bidding is totally insane

2c=insane

2h=more insane

rest if possible more insane.

 

 

 

What happens if the bidding goes 1h=1nt?

I bet this is not an issue!

Insane? What on earth is wrong with 2C? I bet if the auction starts 1h - 1NT you have no chance of ever catching up later.

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I don't think pard would make a grand slam try on

 

Axx

AKxxxx

Axx

x

 

alone. Something like

 

AKx

AKxxxx

Axx

x

 

is more likely. But even this is only 12 tricks unless you get lucky or conjure up a squeeze. Thus, in any case 12 tricks seem to be the limit.

 

Of course, in real life pard will actually have something like

 

Axx

AKxxxx

Axx

J

 

or even...

 

Ax

AKxxx

AQxxx

x

 

:rolleyes:

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Wasn't my 2H bid non-forcing in SAYC? Given that, my hand can hardly be better than it is, and I'm bidding a grand. However, I think 7NT is better than 7H. Imagine the risk in playing 7H on a club lead, when partner has a singleton club.

Why not bid 7 and let partner decide? I'm quite sure this should show the club queen, not that you want to play in clubs.

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Wasn't my 2H bid non-forcing in SAYC?  Given that, my hand can hardly be better than it is, and I'm bidding a grand.  However, I think 7NT is better than 7H.  Imagine the risk in playing 7H on a club lead, when partner has a singleton club.

Why not bid 7 and let partner decide? I'm quite sure this should show the club queen, not that you want to play in clubs.

Not bad, but I do think it suggests the possibility of playing clubs. Perhaps xxx Qx xx AKQxxx or so.

 

I'm having second thoughts about driving to 7 anyway. Can't partner have A AKxxxx AKxxx x?

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Wasn't my 2H bid non-forcing in SAYC? Given that, my hand can hardly be better than it is, and I'm bidding a grand. However, I think 7NT is better than 7H. Imagine the risk in playing 7H on a club lead, when partner has a singleton club.

 

This comment was awesome. If I didn't know any better I'd say you played that tournament, this was partner's hand:

 

Ax

AKT8xx

A98x

J

 

It's true that partner got a little carried away but 7NT is cold on any lead and even 6 is down after a club lead.

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I think partner has the second hand

Ax

AKxxx

AQxxx

x

 

and is looking for either the Diamond K or 6 Club winners.

And he wants to be in a grand opposite xxx Qx Kx AKxxxx? And did partner really bid a NF 2H on this hand anyway?

 

Note that if partner has xxx Qx xx AKQJxx opposite your example then the best grand is 7C (see my comment to jdonn above), but I don't think it's worth bidding (and partner might not have bid 2H with this either).

 

My point is that partner needs a much better hand than your example for his bidding, and certainly better than the the hand the OP has told us he actually had.

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