Helmer Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 [hv=d=s&v=b&n=s108h10532da982cak7&s=skj62h76dj107cj1098]133|200|Scoring: IMP[/hv] S W N EPass 1♠ DBL RDBL2♣ 2♥ Pass 2NTPass Pass 3♣ DBLall pass Possible other bids from my hand: Pass - with a chance that partner bids a red suit.1NT - promissing a spade stopper - and some kind of points. I (S) asked, "Why compete against possible 2NT?". And then the discussion started. Anyway my partner wasn't satisfied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 Alert this maybe too old fashion but I pass not x with north hand.In any case 3c seems a bit much. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobowolf Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 I think 3♣ is a real lemon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poohbear Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 North lost their mind. Dbl opp a passed hand is questionable at best . 3C was clearly suicidal. I would pass the redbl with the south hand. Now partner can introduce a 5 card suit or kick it back to me with 1nt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmat Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 north needs to lay off the juice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricK Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 3♣ is clearly ridiculous IMO. Partner is a passed hand and has bid your shortest suit. The hand is obviously something of a misfit for both sides. In particular, partner is pretty much marked with ♠ length under the 1♠ opener, a couple of ♥s, no ♣Q, and about 6 points. You can almost see 6 or 7 losers in a ♣ contract before the opening lead is even made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 don't sac over 2NT, lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianshark Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 Every call was reasonable and defensible except 3♣ which was ludicrous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 North is solely to blame. South's one and only call was perfectly normal, although 1NT was a reasonable alternative. South could have held: xxxxxxxxxxxxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilboyman Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 The first mistake is usually the foundation for the rest. The t/o double while agressive is not clearly in error, since N/S can still have the majority of points and a Heart fit. After the redouble, South made the error of showing a preference for Clubs which was not necessary or desireable give the minimum nature of the hand and may have given North the impression that South held 5 cards in Clubs. Pass is clear as South has no clear preference for Clubs or Diamonds at this point in the auction. Better to pass the runout decision to North. Since the auction is clear that E/W have no fit North's 3C call is uncalled for but would have never have been made if not for South's 2C call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sadie3 Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 I can't imagine why North made his first bid, he must have been feeling rather frisky that day or playing the opps or not trusting of his partner. Getting in the auction again was suicide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 The first mistake is usually the foundation for the rest. The t/o double while agressive is not clearly in error, since N/S can still have the majority of points and a Heart fit. After the redouble, South made the error of showing a preference for Clubs which was not necessary or desireable give the minimum nature of the hand and may have given North the impression that South held 5 cards in Clubs. Pass is clear as South has no clear preference for Clubs or Diamonds at this point in the auction. Better to pass the runout decision to North. Since the auction is clear that E/W have no fit North's 3C call is uncalled for but would have never have been made if not for South's 2C call. I totally disagree. When partner makes a takeout double and there is a redouble, you should make a call when you have a clear preference among the unbid suits. In this case, South does have a clear preference - clubs (ignoring the 1NT call that would not be an unreasonable alternative). If he passes, he indicates that he does not have any preference among the unbid suits, and he is willing to play in any of them. That is clearly not the case. By bidding 2♣, he is taking partner off the hook. He is NOT inviting partner to bid again. North's 3♣ bid was, to put it charitably, a wild gamble. Others have been less kind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 Obviously north does not understand bridge. Not much else to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 Obviously north does not understand bridge. Not much else to say. Maybe North thought that they were playing "baby Lebensohl" in this auction. LOL Actually, this makes me think. There might be some actual merit to playing "Baby Lebensohl" here after all. I mean, I often see auctions start like this where, as Advancer, I have every bit of my 2♣ call and would like to announce that. Playing 1NT as Lebensohl here would allow me to relay that information. It might also help in the event that LHO has made a psychic opening or RHO has made a psychic redouble. Hmmmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 Obviously north does not understand bridge. Not much else to say.I was told I should be more constructive. These are specifically the things north doesn't understand about bridge: - Vulnerability- The difference betweeen offense and defense- Competitive bidding- Redoubles- Scoring- The term "in context" as in "in context, I am as weak and short in clubs as I could be"- Inferences (including that partner has 4+ spades, and that we have a club loser)- Post mortems Did I forget any? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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