kfay Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 [hv=d=s&v=n&s=saq109xhkj9xdq9xxc]133|100|Scoring: MP1♠-(P)-2♥-(3♣)?[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 Playing 2/1 I presume? I bid 4♣ and even pass 4♥ from partner. Any other move (such as 4♦) and I'm heading towards slam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 Any agreements (anyone?) on what 4♣ shows? I think playing it as a splinter for hearts seems like a good idea. It's simple, descriptive, and not really needed for other purposes. I hope the thread title doesn't mean you are seriously considering bidding exclusion at this point... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkDean Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 4 (why can't I just have "4" as my whole post?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 I like it Josh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 4C is obviously club shortness and a heart fit, I would expect any expert partner to understand this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 4C is obviously club shortness and a heart fit, I would expect any expert partner to understand this.Not me. (And I am an expert, just check my profile on BBO. :) ) Whats your bid with: ♠ AKQ53♥ AQ42♦ 97♣ A6 Edit: Off course, if it is 2/1 you can bid 3♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 4C is obviously club shortness and a heart fit, I would expect any expert partner to understand this.Not me. (And I am an expert, just check my profile on BBO. :D ) Whats your bid with: ♠ AKQ53♥ AQ42♦ 97♣ A6 Edit: Off course, if it is 2/1 you can bid 3♥. Yep, assuming it's 2/1 then that hand just bids 3H. I guess kfay did not specify that, and I just know that he only plays 2/1 because I have played with him. You would be right in a SAYC setting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggieb Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 How nice to be playing 2/1! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 4C is obviously club shortness and a heart fit, I would expect any expert partner to understand this. I would expect a poll of experts with no hand attached to not be anywhere near unanimous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggieb Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 I'm with you Josh, a good auction to discuss with your regular partner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 4 is the only reasonable club bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgordon Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 I'm bidding 3h and keeping the auction low. I want to see how many clubs LHO is going to bid. There is 0 chance partner is passing, even if it isn't 2/1. This hand isn't as good as it looks -- he needs way too many cover cards to make a slam feasible -- if he has all of em, he'll probably cue bid 4d on the way to 4h anyway. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfay Posted December 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Ok let's say you bid 4♣. Partner cues 4♦. Is slam a foregone conclusion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 after 4♦ I would be careful about online partner and bid 5♣, with regular partner I can bid 4♠ or 5♣, but I would go with 5♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Ok let's say you bid 4♣. Partner cues 4♦. Is slam a foregone conclusion? No. Why should it be?You are currently at the 4D level. There is plenty of room between that and slam to make a decision. You haven't actually mentioned what system we're playing - all the 4C bidders are assuming that 2H was game forcing, although no-one's actually said so. Anyway, over 4D we can cue bid 4S showing extra values (which I suppose we sort of have, we have a club void and a 4th heart). If partner bids 5H over that I would pass. My second choice over 4D is 4H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 I would bid 4H over 4D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 I would bid 4H over 4D. Me too. Partner's 4♦ doesn't promise extra values; it just says that he's not put off by the idea of club shortage. xx AQxxx Kxx Axx would be a perfectly good 4♦ bid. Whilst 5♥ would probably make opposite that, I'd rather not take the risk, and anyway he might drive to slam if I do any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 I think it is very likely that partner has cued a stiff diamond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkDean Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Ok let's say you bid 4♣. Partner cues 4♦. Is slam a foregone conclusion? Count me in with the 4♥ bidders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 This is an easy 4♣ bid to begin with, however, when partner bids 4♦, is 4♠ Kickback and 4NT a ♠ cuebid? This is another thing that came up several times in Boston... (Another interesting idea is to play 4NT as specific ace asking) I would bid 4♥ after 4♦, I've shown my hand, now it's time to let partner show his/hers. AJK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 This is an easy 4♣ bid to begin with, however, when partner bids 4♦, is 4♠ Kickback and 4NT a ♠ cuebid? If you are asking then you shouldn't be asking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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