maggieb Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 We had a wonderful time in cold and rainy Boston. Here is a hand from the national swiss that I kibitzed: ♠KQxxxx♥Qxx♦Qx♣Ax RHO opened 1C, strong. You are red against white, would you overcall 1S or 2S? Apparantly the player who held this hand thought two spades was a bit too much at these colors because he bid only one spade. Now LHO passed (showing 0-5 or a penalty pass) partner raised to 2S and RHO bid 3H. Bidding repeated for your convenience: (1C) - 1S - (p) - 2S(3H) - ?? What oh what would you do now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Agree with 1♠, now 3♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Possibly he didn't bid 2♠ because that would show some other hand type. :) But yeah, if 1♠ is the bid on the first round, I'll bid 3 now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Tough hand but a pass for me. I dont have shortness and partner may not have short hearts so bidding on is too dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 I think this is very similar to the auction: 1♥ - 1♠ - P - 2♠3♥ - ??? Perhaps opener's hand is slightly better on average and responder's hand is slightly worse. Obviously at IMPs red vs. white this is not a "non-problem" (at MPs I think bidding 3♠ is pretty clear-cut) but I would pretty routinely bid 3♠ here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 I actually like 2♠ to begin with. It's more likely their hand than ours, he might misguess the queens if he plays it, and it is probably a reasonable contract if it gets passed out (although I wouldn't expect to make in that case.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 I think I would also bid 2S immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 At unfavourable I might have chosen 2♠, but I'd most probably have overcalled 1♠ even at that vulerability. Now it's close, but I'll venture 3♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 Even at that vulnerability? Isn't it clear to bid 2S when white? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 I like 2♠ initially, but I do think it's dangerous. The strong clubbers will have a much harder time with that then they will with 1♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 We had a wonderful time in cold and rainy Boston. Here is a hand from the national swiss that I kibitzed:♠KQxxxx♥Qxx♦Qx♣AxRHO opened 1C, strong. You are red against white, would you overcall 1S or 2S? Apparantly the player who held this hand thought two spades was a bit too much at these colors because he bid only one spade. Now LHO passed (showing 0-5 or a penalty pass) partner raised to 2S and RHO bid 3H. Bidding repeated for your convenience: (1C) - 1S - (p) - 2S(3H) - ?? What oh what would you do now? IMO it depends on your methods. Here we play 2♠ as intermediate (6 card suit or excellent five card suit with at least opening values, so...Over (1♣), 2♠ = 10, 1♠ = 5, _P = 2.After (1♣) 1♠ (_P) 2♠ (3♥), X(Game try) = 10, 3♠ = 7, _P = 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 Pass. I think 1S is fine. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotShot Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 I'd bid 2♠. If the strong clubber open 16+ HCP and I have 13 HCP, there are 11 HCP left for the other 2 players. If I open 2♠ opps have the problem, that they did not show a suit up to now, and don't know anything about their fit. Additionally they will more often have 16 +5(6) HCP as sufficient strength for game. Openers partner will usually have to pass, giving little information to his partner. This will make it harder for opener to find a fit or a penalty dbl. If I open 1♠ opps can find their fit at the 2 level and are in a better position to reevaluate their hands knowing about their fit. This might allow them to compete at the 3 level or find their rare games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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