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11pt 5-5minors over 1M opening by partner


Quarky

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Hi,

 

You go via the forcing NT.

 

After that you look further, after you hear 2C, which

should be a 3 carder (unless you require that 2D

showes 4 cards), you know you have a fit, you show

the fit with 3C.

This showes a fit and inv. strength, surprisingly that is,

what you hold.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

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How do you bid the following hand playing standard 2/1? Your partner opens 1S vulnerable, IMPs (opps are passing)

 

Your hand is

 

63

Q

AKQ32

87632

 

After your forcing 1NT, partner bids 2C. Your call?

I like playing BART here after 1s=1nt=2c. In the version of BART I know:

 

3c now is weak with 5 card support less than invitational values, a blocking bid.

1s=1nt

2c=3c

 

With invitational values in clubs you start with 2d over 2c which asks partner to describe his hand further and then responder rebids 3c to show 5 clubs and invitational values.

1s=1nt

2c=2d(BART)

2x=3c

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Raise clubs.

 

3 will be enough since in the system being employed 2 is not a real suit.

Yeah, well pard decided to try 5C, which got cracked by a guy holding KQJ9 :P

Stuff happens.

 

That doesn't mean 3C isn't the right bid.

Sorry, I said that wrong. THe 'your' hand i posted was my partner's hand, so it was his action I was uncertain about. My partner jumped to 5C with that hand, right after my 2C response to his forcing NT. So i think we all agree he was too fast with his bid, then.

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All of your threads sure seem determined to find a consensus that your partner messed up. I'm sure you don't mean anything by it, but that sort of thing is generally considered to be in poor taste...

 

Anyway I agree 3 is normal absent conventions that let you do things like 'strongly invite'.

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Raise clubs.

 

3 will be enough since in the system being employed 2 is not a real suit.

Yeah, well pard decided to try 5C, which got cracked by a guy holding KQJ9 :P

This is a bit optimisic considering that your 2 rebid could just be 3 rather lousy cards and tha PD has a dubious stiff Q in a suit the opps have to have lots of cards in.

 

Absent of BART, I'd bid 3. It is OK to have a max.

 

Had the opening been 1, I'd now bid 2 to show a good raise of , but that distinction isn't possible after a 1 opening unless you play BART.

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I remember Meckstroth bid

 

1S------1Nt

2C (could be 3)------------3C

 

5C

 

The 1S was limited to 15 pts to the 3C was stronger than standard.

 

 

he had

 

Axxxx

xx

x

AKxxx

 

He said that since 3C tend to show 5C support or 4C and a lot of values. It also tend to show a stiff spade.

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