shevek Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 1NT - 2♠ - ? 1NT is 15-17 and 2♠ is natural. You have some hand with six clubs.Say you want to compete with ♠xx ♥xx ♦xxx ♣KQTxxx invite with ♠xxx ♥Ax ♦xx ♣QJxxxx force with ♠Axx ♥xxx ♦x ♣AQJxxx Of course you may not agree with these assessments but let's forget that.Playing your chosen methods, do you give up on one of these? For instance, if 2NT says "please bid 3♣" does opener always comply or is he allowed to bid 3♦+ on a max with a club fit.Or do you give up on competing with sub-minimums to give opener more leeway?Or something else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Give up on invite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Give up on invite. ditto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFA Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 I have been considering something like this: X=T/O.2NT= lebensohl sign-off ♣/♦/♥. 2NT+any strong action = GF with clubs.3♣= ♦ inv or better.3♦= ♥ inv or better.3♥, 3♠ various GF hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 It's easy enough to use 2NT as weak with any suit (or to show/deny stoppers etc) and otherwise use transfers, which lets you invite with any suit but clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Give up on invite. ditto. Tritto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobowolf Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Give up on invite. ditto. Tritto. Quadritto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Give up the invite. You have two way to bid 3C, henceyou can show 2 types, you have togive up 1 hand. Bidding 3D over 2NT is not an option,because this commits the partnership to 4C, assumingyou play that 2NT showes clubs and is not just a relais. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmunte1 Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 I've played Transfer Lebensohl, as Michael sugested, losing only invitational hand with clubs. I also saw people who play 2NT Leb, 3m - invite, 3♥ forc, slow shows, just not bidding the long minor when forcing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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