rogerclee Posted November 16, 2008 Report Share Posted November 16, 2008 IMPs, All White, Third Seat ♠x ♥K98xxxx ♦AQx ♣Qx 1♣ - (Dbl) - 1♥ - (1♠)2♣ - (2♠) - ? Support doubles are on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted November 16, 2008 Report Share Posted November 16, 2008 4♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmunte1 Posted November 16, 2008 Report Share Posted November 16, 2008 I'd double, followed by 3♥ (forcing). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted November 16, 2008 Report Share Posted November 16, 2008 3S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted November 16, 2008 Report Share Posted November 16, 2008 4♥, can be wrong but I am going to insist on hearts with seven of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted November 16, 2008 Report Share Posted November 16, 2008 I'll take Edmunte's approach: x and 3♥. I think if you ran a sim, pard's average heart length is less than 1.5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted November 16, 2008 Report Share Posted November 16, 2008 What was 2H, 3H last round? What have I denied holding by not using one of them? Surely good players don't believe in weak preempts there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardf10987 Posted November 16, 2008 Report Share Posted November 16, 2008 1♣ dbl... often dbl means majors... so I see no reason to bid now 4♥, also admitting this to be a near normal bid. I prefer dbl + 3♥... just in case we can find some others contracts...- such as 3NT (why not? ♠Kxx ♥x ♦Kxx ♣AKJxxx), - such as 5♣ (♠xxx ♥ x ♦Kxx ♣AKJxxx) or, dreaming beautiffuly, - such as 6 ♣ with some slight variations (♠Axx ♥x ♦Kxx ♣ARJxxx). And don't tell me with last hand you would have bid 3♣ in complete misfit... Yes I know... some leads can beat us... but nobody is perfect... specifically me, finding correct examples... :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted November 16, 2008 Report Share Posted November 16, 2008 I'll bid 3♥. Been in situations like this before and the 4♥ alternative didn't work so well at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 3D, 4H deserve major punishement. Over 3D partner can bid 3H with 2. If he doesnt have 2H 5C will play at least as good as 4H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 2♣ denied 3-card support I'd guess, although this is not mentioned in the OP. I'd not go looking for 4♥ here, trumps rate to split unevenly after the t/o double. Partner will often have some length in spades here, so 5♣ doesnt rate to be too good either. 3NT is on if we have six club tricks, a spade stopper and ♦K onside (or with partner). I've got no good bid, without GF values. I'd try 3♣ for now, and see if I get another chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 I think 4H is still the most likely game by far. Even if partner has a singleton heart it is quite likely that LHO has 3 including the ace. 4H it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichMor Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 3♥ for me. Pard is still there and can raise with 1.5 good Hearts. The question isn't really 'are we likely to make 4♥' but instead 'are we likely to make 4♥ if pard passes 3♥' ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmat Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 3♥ for me. Pard is still there and can raise with 1.5 good Hearts. It's unfortunate. In my experience when my partner gets dealt half a card, the director usually deems the board fouled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfay Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 I think I'd just bid 4♥. I kind of like the X...3♥ approach but our hand isn't good in NT and we just have to ruff too many of partner's spades in 5♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 I think 4H is still the most likely game by far. Even if partner has a singleton heart it is quite likely that LHO has 3 including the ace. 4H it is. Why do you want to be in 4H if partner hold xxxxKxAKxxxxx KxxxxxAKxxxxx xxxxKxxAKJTxx etc. and im even not telling cases where partner is void. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 Thank you for giving me 10-counts with a singleton support, you are most generous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 Thank you for giving me 10-counts with a singleton support, you are most generous With a doubleton ♥ partner will be please to bid 3H over 3D. Unless holding 2 spades stoppers. As for 10 counts ive wanted to showed the possible core of the hands since the soft values wont hold there weight here. Stiff Q or J of H pretty useless. Qxx or Jxx ♠ useless also. J of D will probably only have value if supported by the T. Im surprised that im the only 1 that bid 3D here, i really believe that this bid is the only 1 here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 Thank you for giving me 10-counts with a singleton support, you are most generous With a doubleton ♥ partner will be please to bid 3H over 3D. Unless holding 2 spades stoppers. As for 10 counts ive wanted to showed the possible core of the hands since the soft values wont hold there weight here. Stiff Q or J of H pretty useless. Qxx or Jxx ♠ useless also. J of D will probably only have value if supported by the T. Im surprised that im the only 1 that bid 3D here, i really believe that this bid is the only 1 here. 3♦ shows diamonds, you know... 3♥ over 3♦ would typically show Hx for me, with xx I would avoid it (especially if my diamond support is better than my heart support). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 Tough luck for you then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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