1D 1H ?

[y66]

Kx AJx AKQxxxx x

 

We open 1D in 2nd. Pard bids 1H. Opps silent. Now what?

[maggieb]

I dislike 3♣ the least. I consider 2♠ to be far more reasonable than 3♦.

[effervesce]

3♦ is a massive underbid, while 2NT and 3NT show completely different hands. 4♦ is a possible bid, pretending to have have 6 diamonds 4 hearts.

 

I think 3♣ is best though. If partner can bid 3♥ we can raise, if partner bids 3♠/3NT we can bid 4♦ or 5♦. The biggest problem with 3♣ is if partner has clubs, in which case you'd want to be in 3NT. However, 5♦ may still be ok.

[gwnn]

3♣.

[Free]

I have a tool for this, so "other" ;)

[Flame]

2♠

[helene_t]

You really need a tool for this hand. I think I would bid 2NT or 4♦ or 3♦ but I hate all of them (unless agreed to include this hand), but 3♣ as an omnibus GF is $@##;)!. I would rather open 2♣ then.

[P_Marlowe]

3D, wtp.

 

3D is an underbid, I am even willing to agree that it

is a massive underbid , but it is still the best bid.

 

As they say, if you survive this round, you will

be in a good position.

 

We will only miss game, if partner is dead, in which

case game may well be better than 50%, but not by

a large degree.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[Codo]

I wonder how often we will discuss this BWS death hand again. You have a tool for this kind of or you don't. If you have one, use it. If you don't have one, be creative.

[y66]

I have not seen this problem before. I need to read more posts.

 

But yeah, it sure felt like a death hand. ;)

 

3C worked out okay.

[ArtK78]

I voted for 3♣. just like on the last hand like this that I posted as a problem.

 

But, once again, this is another hand for a forcing 3♦ rebid.

[ardf10987]

Bidding 3♦, for all, is a massive underbid.

Bidding 3♣, for someone, is correct, but I dislike bidding colours I don't have.

Bidding 2♠ "out of tempo" would be fine. Partner will surely find a way to interpose some bid other then 4♠ with a 45 majors...Okok...I was jocking... :rolleyes: but...

Bidding 2♠ "in tempo" is unbeliavable. You can change it in incredible. And p is favorite to be 44 or 54 in M. What else we have?

 

I have no tools to bid this hand (after 1♦ opening), so I MUST be creative. And my choice is... 4♦. I understand this show 6♦ 4♥, but I hope to make some jump to 6♦, just to show solid ♦. If 4♦ this way is forbidden, I'll choose 4♣ (splinter), with same hope.

 

It's a little bet, hoping to find a useful ♥ suit in front. I know.

But I found best showing 9 correct card (on 10) that showing 1 correct card (on 4+ supposed, with 3♣).

[kenrexford]

Heck of a lot of 3♣ endorsements down here in text but not up there in the poll. LOL

 

I was a 3♣ voter (the first, actually), so I felt obligated to post down here because here is where the true 3♣ votes are being cast.

[Codo]

I hate 3 ♣ voters. :rolleyes:

Give me your name and adress...

 

3 Club can and often will work in America and other places where people are used to fake jumps. I doubt that it will work here in Germany. At least I have never ever seen such an answer to the typical question in the bidding polls.

[TylerE]

I like 1m-1x-3NT to show about this hand. I'd like a ♣ card, but can't have it all. Spade lead is reasonably likely. I get doubled I'll pull to 4♦.

[hotShot]

Given that I don't have better agreement,

Depending on the meaning of 4♦ i would bid that or I would try 4♣.

If partner gives a positive response, 5♦ or 5♥ should be quite save and slam is withing reach.

[fromageGB]

Forgive my not following any similar thread earlier, but could I ask those with "tools" for this hand, what they bid, what sort of hands make that bid, and how they substitute for whatever other people would mean by making the "tool bid" naturally? I am willing to learn.

[ArcLight]

Why is 3♦ so bad?

 

You have 16-18 HCP, and a good 6+ card ♦ suit.

 

 

Is the danger that you miss slam? Game, which strain?

 

What would a bid of 4♦ (instead of 3♦) mean in this sequence, not ace asking I assume?

 

What will bidding 2♠ (reverse 17+ pard will expect 4 spades) or 3♣ (19 HCP for the jump shift, pard will expect 4 clubs) accomplish? You will tell pard you are strong, but what will aprd tell you that you want to know?

 

What do you want to know?

-Aces.

-King of hearts.

 

RKCBW 1430 could work out, though pard will think hearts are trum and may bid over your 6♦ if confused.

And if pard has 0 key cards you wont be so happy.

 

You probably dont wnat to be in NT with this ahnd.

 

How about 4♦?

Pard may pass with quacks and a diem void, but he probably has a bit more and will bid 5♦.

With a great hand (the black aces) he can cue bid.

[maggieb]

ArcLight, 3♦ is bad because this hand is worth far more than your typical 16-18. The double-fit in hearts, the extra diamond, and the ♦AKQ make this hand have the playing strength of something like a 21-count at this point.