Your Choice?

[Codo]

Ok, I misunderstood the question, sorry.

 

Actually, I must confess, I had reached 6 Club on both hands. (I use 4 Club as quatitative and KC, so after a 4 club bid, responder had shown maximum and enough KCs to bid the small slam. This had not worked well with Oles hands- at least not with both).

[OleBerg]

Well, I simply cannot let things rest. :rolleyes:

 

If I were the opener, I would expect 18+ HCP, if I get to know your shape or make sure that we play ♣, if I learn about your strength, because I expect an unbalanced hand with 5♣ now.

Which is why I wrote:

 

"I agree that 2♣ should not deny 13-15 and a balanced hand."

 

but if I have to call this hand 16 hcp to be allowed to bid 2♣, then fine by me.

[OleBerg]

12 tricks might eassily be on facing an unbalanced minimum, on which partner will always pass. The real embarrasing ones, are the ones where 3nt is down and 6♣ is making:

 

♠ xx

♥ x

♦ AQxx

♣ KQxxxx

 

<snip>

 

now this hands screams Clubs, clubs clubs, so partner, who has a perfect picture from our hand will never pass 3 NT.

 

So you pull 3nt, only to find partner with:

 

♠ AJ10

♥ QJ10

♦ J32

♣ AJ109

 

3nt is the last safe spot. 4nt is on a finesse, and 5♣ will need the ♦K singleton or doubleton onside.

[ASkolnick]

Like JDonn said, we play 2N as forcing. It lets responder describe his hand, if its balanced we stop in 3N, if he has real clubs, we can look for slam.