andy_h Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 [hv=d=n&v=n&s=sakhaq87d632ck987]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] We are East. North (RHO) is dealer and opens 3♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 ugh. pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmunte1 Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 Pass, no ugh :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 I double, if partner bids 3♠ is that usually so terrible? Could be but doesn't have to be, and anything at all that he does is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 I would double for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 I'd pass for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 Latest Josh's law: When well-respected members of society feel very strongly but in opposite directions about a bridge issue, the truth lies in the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 Latest Josh's law: When well-respected members of society feel very strongly but in opposite directions about a bridge issue, the truth lies in the middle. I see Roger felt strongly about passing, but who doubled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 Latest Josh's law: When well-respected members of society feel very strongly but in opposite directions about a bridge issue, the truth lies in the middle. I see Roger felt strongly about passing, but who doubled? I would double for sure. Oh wait, I said well-respected :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 A friend of mine had a hand almost identical to this. We ended up in the functional equivalent of a 4-2 spade fit. It made, for a near top. I mean, give partner a nice collection like the heart King, the club Ace, the spade Q10xx, and either the heart Jack of the club Queen. The opponents cash two diamonds, and he ruffs the third. After pulling trumps, hopefully 3-3 but possibly 4-2, he starts taking tricks. The opponents may well crash the 13th spade on a club or heart winner in the end position. These hands often feature a compression at the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 A friend of mine had a hand almost identical to this. We ended up in the functional equivalent of a 4-2 spade fit. It made, for a near top. I mean, give partner a nice collection like the heart King, the club Ace, the spade Q10xx, and either the heart Jack of the club Queen. The opponents cash two diamonds, and he ruffs the third. After pulling trumps, hopefully 3-3 but possibly 4-2, he starts taking tricks. The opponents may well crash the 13th spade on a club or heart winner in the end position. These hands often feature a compression at the end. When Chuck Norris plays a 4-2 fit, trumps break 3-3... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 A friend of mine had a hand almost identical to this. We ended up in the functional equivalent of a 4-2 spade fit. It made, for a near top. I mean, give partner a nice collection like the heart King, the club Ace, the spade Q10xx, and either the heart Jack of the club Queen. The opponents cash two diamonds, and he ruffs the third. After pulling trumps, hopefully 3-3 but possibly 4-2, he starts taking tricks. The opponents may well crash the 13th spade on a club or heart winner in the end position. These hands often feature a compression at the end. When Chuck Norris plays a 4-2 fit, trumps break 3-3... Oops! LOLOL OK -- hopefully 4-3 trumps. THEN the compression. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobowolf Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 Latest Josh's law: When well-respected members of society feel very strongly but in opposite directions about a bridge issue, the truth lies in the middle. This can be usefully applied to politics and art criticism as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 Latest Josh's law: When well-respected members of society feel very strongly but in opposite directions about a bridge issue, the truth lies in the middle. This can be usefully applied to politics and art criticism as well. Actually I thought of specifically pointing out that it does NOT apply to politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 Latest Josh's law: When well-respected members of society feel very strongly but in opposite directions about a bridge issue, the truth lies in the middle. This can be usefully applied to politics and art criticism as well. I don't want to hear anything about art criticism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 Latest Josh's law: When well-respected members of society feel very strongly but in opposite directions about a bridge issue, the truth lies in the middle. This can be usefully applied to politics and art criticism as well. I don't want to hear anything about art criticism. As opposed to politics, at least art criticism is something we can all agree on. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 Easy pass, a red vs W 3D preempt is an opening hand so my hope for game if partner cant balance are not so high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 a red vs W 3D preempt is an opening hand I hope you think so when you play against me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 I like double. If this is very wrong, the vulnerability should keep the resulting number down. But doubling has a couple of upsides. It gets us to game when partner has a moderate hand with a diamond holding such as Kxx, when he would just pass out 3♦.It also advertises values. LHO, with a moderate hand including a fitting diamond honor might be about to try 3NT, and if he does have such a hand, 3NT will often be cold. Perhaps either our double will frighten him out of trying 3NT, or at least give partner a chance to do something sensible such as bidding 4♥ if he does. Easy pass, a red vs W 3D preempt is an opening hand so my hope for game if partner cant balance are not so high. Umm, a red vs W 3D preempt is a preempt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 Latest Josh's law: When well-respected members of society feel very strongly but in opposite directions about a bridge issue, the truth lies in the middle. This can be usefully applied to politics and art criticism as well. Actually I thought of specifically pointing out that it does NOT apply to politics. I think it applies very well to politics. That is, if it's Jdonn deciding who are the well-respected members of society. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 X. I am born under a lucky star ... With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 Pass... but then my partners bid four-card spade suits with a very high degree of frequency over my doubles. If you expect partner to bid 3♥ with a weak 4-4 majors hand or to bid 3NT with 4333 and one diamond stop, or to cuebid with 4324 and minimum game values, then doubling may work out better for you than it would for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 or to cuebid with 4324 and minimum game values That he should almost definitely do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 Latest Josh's law: When well-respected members of society feel very strongly but in opposite directions about a bridge issue, the truth lies in the middle. plize gif statistical evidence incidently, I pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 Umm, a red vs W 3D preempt is a preempt. Well lets just say that a 3 level R vs W preempt has more playing strenght than a strong NT and 2 quick trick is possible. I hope you think so when you play against me! And we do play play that 3m is showing a strong preempt and 2Nt is a m preempt in wich 3Nt isnt likely. And so far opponents are not happy ! Even in standard R vs Wpass-----(P)--------3D--------(P) AxxAxxQxxJTxx Not Bidding 3Nt here is crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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