matmat Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 [hv=d=w&v=n&s=sq9xxhxdktxxcjtxx]133|100|Scoring: MP(1♠) - 2♠ - (4♠) - ? [/hv] (you're playing with a very good partner in a rather random field, 2♠ is the standard Michaels.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 4N, I tend to be quite sound for michaels especially at this vulnerability. I am bidding to make (or hoping to). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardf10987 Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 I have no correct solution. I can let play 4♠ hoping in hearts tricks... but sometime 4♠ make or near make, with ops cards like [hv=d=w&v=n&w=saj10xxhaxdxckqxxx&e=skxxxhjxxxxdjxxcx]266|100|Scoring: MP[/hv] I can bid 4NT hoping to face some fitting cards, like [hv=d=w&v=n&s=shaqxxxdaxxckqxxx]133|100|Scoring: MP[/hv] I think we cannot be sure both ways, so I prefer to bid considering what we can loose/gain, because:1) sometime I have guessed correectly, and I'm happy2) sometime they bid 5♠, and I'm happy3) sometime they double and settle me... but I can share blame with my p for HIS 2♠ bid. And I'm ONLY half-unhappy. :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 Pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 agree with roger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 4NT. It usually pays to bid one more with a fit. And Q9xx, while quite annoying, hardly qualifies as a trump stack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 I'll just pass and lead a heart at MP's since it looks like we could go for 500 on a bad day and both contracts could go down often, but I'm not sure of this at all. At imps I'd definitely bid 4NT, since 5m could easily make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardf10987 Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 I'll just pass and lead a heart at MP's....If you pass and lead an ♥, I think they'll probably make it calling director... Apparently it's not your lead.. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 oh well, at least I tried Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 I'd pass. I agree with sound cuebids, but I think either of the following qualifies easily: -KQJTxxxKQxxxx -AKJTxAQJxxxxx Neither hand offers much play for 5m. The second hand should beat 4♠ (but often only one trick, taking two hearts, one diamond, and a heart ruff). The first hand probably won't beat 4♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickRW Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 Has anyone thought that the last making contract for either side was our 4m and that par is 4♠*-1? Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 Has anyone thought that the last making contract for either side was our 4m and that par is 4♠*-1? Nick No, I am pretty sure everyone thought that this was completely impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 I would pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpenz Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 Freds new updated version of GIB Passed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmat Posted November 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 Freds new updated version of GIB Passed i don't know whether gib takes vul into account in regard to michaels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmat Posted November 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 The poll seems to verify that it is close between Pass and 4NT. On this particular deal, bidding turns out to be right as it leads to a profitable R/W sacrifice. Partner has slight extra shape, but is lightish on values: x KJTxx AQxxxx x 4♠ makes on the nose and 5♦ is off one undoubled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 Even when bidding 4NT is "wrong," in that 5 of a minor is worse than passing 4♠, the opponents may bid on to 5♠. That extra vig has to be worth something. Call it fold equity for the poker players out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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