kfay Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 [hv=d=w&v=n&s=skxxha87xxdxcajxx]133|100|Scoring: MPP-1♦-1♥-PP-3♦-P-?[/hv] Agree with pass of 1♥? What's your plan now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Agree with my first pass, am thinking of slam now and would start with 3H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggieb Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 I think I underestimated the probability of slam originally, and thinking about it more, 3♥ must be right. But I still think penalty passing with this hand is awful, I would have bid 2N. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Agree with my first pass, am thinking of slam now and would start with 3H. Me too. Also, I completely agree with the penalty pass. Edit: Oops sorry didn't mean to be redundant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 I would have bid 3NT instead of penalty passing. Now, agree with 3♥ looking for slam. (Second choice: an immediate 6♦, but there is no need for this - 3♥ is clearly not natural and leaves us a bit more bidding space than 6♦) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcurt Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 Completely agree with the pass. If partner can't bid it's hard to see how we can make anything since none of the spots in our long suit are going to take any tricks. If we bid, we have no hope of describing our hand to partner, so we will be forced to bid 3NT to end the auction next time, amounting to the same thing as just bidding 3NT immediately. Bidding 3♥ now seems totally obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 I think 3 Heart is mandatory, but more for the reason that 3 NT is always wrong:If pd has solid diamonds and side tricks, we belong in slam. And if his diamonds are not solid, f.E. AQx,x, AQJTxxxx;Kx, we belong in 5 or 6 Diamond too, because 3 NT will fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfay Posted November 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 I think I underestimated the probability of slam originally, and thinking about it more, 3♥ must be right. But I still think penalty passing with this hand is awful, I would have bid 2N. So you don't want to make a penalty pass that's probably going to go for 300 on average, but you don't think this hand is worth a game force? That doesn't make sense to me. 3NT sounds like a severe case of matchpointitis! Partner has: x Jx AKQ10xxx KQx so 3♥ will get you to the good 6♦ if you keep going. Is this a minimum for partner's bid or just about right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 Agree with penalty pass and 3♥. 6♦ should be a possible contract, and when we don't belong in slam, 5♦ will most probably be (much) better than 3NT, even at MP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 Don't agree with penalty pass (hearts are far too weak - so I prefer dbl) and now I'd bid a straight 6♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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