rogerclee Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 MPs, All White, Fourth Seat ♠AKxxx ♥void ♦JT9xxxx ♣x (1NT) - P - (2♣) - ? What's your plan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 This is tough. If the opponents have a heart fit, they may be in trouble. If they have a massive heart fit (9+), then spades are not working out that well for me. If they end up declaring 3NT, I want to bid 4♦, but I cannot do that effectively unless I bid spades first, and then partner thinks I'm equal in length. If they bid 4♥, I want the spade lead. The problem with bidding 2♦ is that I don't have a rebid after 3NT. I think I'd just decide that the opponents have hearts. So, 2♠ for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 2♦ and then spades up to the 4 level (although I'll pass 3N). I think this hand is just too good to sell out to 4♥, even though pard may be frothing. Even though its MPs, getting a diamond lead only feels really wrong if diamonds are 7-2-2-2 around the table and pard has Kx. Since I've decided that I'm going to be doing a lot of bidding here, I'm not that worried about the lead problem. Anyone play something to show a two-suiter here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 This is tough. If the opponents have a heart fit, they may be in trouble. If they have a massive heart fit (9+), then spades are not working out that well for me. If they end up declaring 3NT, I want to bid 4♦, but I cannot do that effectively unless I bid spades first, and then partner thinks I'm equal in length. If they bid 4♥, I want the spade lead. The problem with bidding 2♦ is that I don't have a rebid after 3NT. I think I'd just decide that the opponents have hearts. So, 2♠ for me. Why does a massive heart fit mean spades don't work out for you? (Hint: a 9-card heart fit is possible without responder having 5 of them.)Why do you want to bid over 3N? If they don't have a heart fit, I surely don't want to compete to the 4-level. I would bid 2♦. On a lucky day I get raised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 2♠ + diams up to 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 2♦ and then spades up to the 4 level (although I'll pass 3N). I think this hand is just too good to sell out to 4♥, even though pard may be frothing. Me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_KARLUK Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 Sorry, 3 questions : My partner does not know how to intervene with a good hand? Is it really the best minimum even if my partner opened and opps kept silence? Still 40 HCP and 13 cards in each suit? ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 2D, followed by spade bids. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 Sorry, 3 questions : My partner does not know how to intervene with a good hand? Yes your partner knows to pass with a good (and balanced) hand. Is it really the best minimum even if my partner opened and opps kept silence? Yes a 7-5 is a good minimum. Still 40 HCP and 13 cards in each suit? ;) Some deals take more tricks than others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_KARLUK Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 I feel myself better with "AKxxx ♥void ♦AJT9xxx ♣x"(LTC easy there)Hmm, let me amend pls:) I dislike to operate in a fog of uncertainty with that "AKxxx ♥void ♦JT9xxxx ♣x"deal. IMO pass is fine; b/c such holdings wld wait "call of duty". For now my crystall ball tells me "do not test depth of water with yr feet". 15-17 in my LHO- say 8 in my RHO, uh oh..seems i only have chance to find 9 at my partner. So when they are minimum and we are maximum 23-17 life is hard for everybody :D I scare to find a misfit and become a sandbag in a long day. Moreover i do not want to hear something like "hey p, did u check yr pass cards there?" ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 I like 2D followed by 4S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmunte1 Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 2♦+3♠. I'll sell out to 4♥ if i succeed to show my suits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wclass___ Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 I really dislike 2♦ Why noone even mentioned 3/4♦ ? :rolleyes: Basically with this hand i dount want to play spades(if partner doesn't have 4 spades :D ), but if partner doesnt have short ♦ i would like ♠ lead a lot.. 2♠ +lead direct+ better chances to be raised + makes more difficult to reach 3N4♦ seems that they will simply double and get +300,but i dount think it is so obvious in practise. Btw most of you suggested 2♦+3♠+ and then they will be in much better situation to chose. Hate Me :ph34r: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 Agree that 2D followed by 4S will make it easier for them, and I wouldn't bid so slowly if I had hearts in diamonds instead of spades and diamonds. But now that I have the mastersuit and a lot of playing strength in either suit, I'm just going to show my hand to make sure we get to the best strain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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