han Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 AAJxxxKJxKQ109 1H - 1S?? Do you rebid 2C, 2NT, 3C or something entirely different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 I will try 3c. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 2♣, if partner passes it can as easily be good as bad, and if he doesn't pass we will have an easy third bid. 3♣ is clearly an overbid, and 2NT is a misbid that I see no reason to make in this case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 3C. I force to game. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerE Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 3♣ - Yes, an overbid, but 2♣ is too likely to pass out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant590 Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 I presume the 3♣ bidders are bidding a 3NT if partner bids 3♠ (wtp?). I'm tempted by 2NT, but I guess I have the same problem after 3♠ and I haven't shown my clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 2♣ looks normal to me. I would upgrade an 18 count to a game force only with some sort of spade fit or extra distribution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 If:1h=1s2c=2h or 2s2nt=is what range? 15-18? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted October 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 Not 15. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 Agree with 2C, 2N is a misbid that people seem to make all the time with little reason imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 If:1h=1s2c=2h or 2s2nt=is what range? 15-18? More like 17-18. I won't say 16 is impossible (or 19!) but it's not the norm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcurt Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 2♣. I would even go so far as to say 3♣ is a clear error. Once upon a time this would have been good enough for 3♣ but a 1/1 doesn't really promise 5 or 6 HCP any more (see any number of comments in these forums). Next paragraph was edited to clarify what I meant... Also, partner is quite likely to have a bad shape for us. If he has 4-2 in the majors and a hand poor enough that we will not reach game after 2♣, he would have bid 1NT (F1) not 1♠. So EITHER we will reach game anyway, OR he's got BOTH a minimum and at least one of 5+ spades or a stiff heart. The spade blockage and lack of heart intermediates will work against us establishing either major at NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 3C. I dont mind a heavy 2C from time to time but here we have 6 controls and KQT9 of clubs that is more than enough to compensate for the stiff S ace and so-so hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted October 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 I bid 2C when I had this at the table. There was some discussion about this hand at the juniorBBO tournament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 I agree with 2♣. 3♣ looks funny, and 2N is not palatable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 3C for me. My 1S bid still shows something. As for the argument that 1S does not have to show many values, I could maybe accept that over 1C, (to shut out the other M), but not over 1H here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 I bid 2C when I had this at the table. There was some discussion about this hand at the juniorBBO tournament. Maybe In a junior tournament this is closer to a 2 Club opening then to a 2 Club response. I had rebid 2 Club too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 I would make the "misbid" of 2NT because I think the chance of getting to a bad spade or notrump contract after this is less than the chance of missing a good game or notrump partial after 2♣. I do think 2♣ is a better bid than 3♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldman5757 Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 3♣ for me. There's no good reason why P should be scraping up a 1 ♠ response over 1♥ on a bad 4HCP or something. I'm more worried about getting p/o in 2♣ with a game on than I am about getting too high on a misfit. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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