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[redguard2]

I have such a hand,

S J××

H A×××

D Q××

C Q××

My P open bid 1C

 

then

1C  -  1H   -

2D  -  2NT -

3D  -   ?

 

I bid 6C,

My P's hand

 

S *

H *

D AK***

C KJ10***

 

My P is angry to me :)

 

what's wrong?

[EricK]

There are three things wrong

 

1) Your partner shouldn't get angry!  If he had asked you why you had bid 6C he would have discovered that:

 

2) You and he have different ideas about the strength shown by a reverse.  You were expecting a much stronger hand; he thinks a reasonable, distributional hand is enough.  But ...

 

3) Your jump to 6C was precipitious, if partners hand is

S KQ

H

D AKJTx

C KJTxxx

then he definitely has hid bids, but 6C is still down.

 

I would have supported clubs on the previous round (not bid NT without a stopper in Spades), but on the auction you had, I would have bid 4C, not 6C, to give partner a chance to cue-bid to slam or bail out in game

 

Eric

[redguard2]

3C or 4C do not mean "I have 2 bad choice and do not know what is worse"?

[jjsb]

I have such a hand,

S J××

H A×××

D Q××

C Q××

My P open bid 1C

 

then

1C  -  1H   -

2D  -  2NT -

3D  -   ?

 

if i'd bid like that now my choice would be 4C . but i don't agree with the 2nt bid ,( it's another problem though .) for me that show a weak hand

 

I bid 6C,

My P's hand

 

S *

H *

D AK***

C KJ10***

 

My P is angry to me :)

 

i just told u i disagree with some of your bid but your partner got no reason to be angry first because a partner must never be angry (oh that happen lol ) . and secondly because the 2D is wrong even if that hand is strong in shape that didn't mean it is wrong in term of points . 2D MUST show that stronger in points. u can agree with your partner that 3D in that case show that kind of hand less stronger in points and more stronge in shape. now i guess some will maybe play that as splinter or fragment bid maybe? well i think it's not (must be at level 4) but something you must discuss with partner of course.  

 

regards

syl

 

what's wrong?

[inquiry]

I have such a hand,

S J××

H A×××

D Q××

C Q××

My P open bid 1C

 

then

1C  -  1H   -

2D  -  2NT -

3D  -   ?  

 

Your 6CLUBS, when you bid it here, is at least a reasonable shot. You surely expect your partner to be 1-1-5-6, 2-0-5-6, or similar. You have a great hand opposite such bidding. I would be a little surprised if partner was void in spades simply because the opponents would have ten spades to the AKQ between them, and one of them might have decided to bid earlier.

 

I think the real culprit, however, was not the leap to 6C but rather your 2NT bid. First off, I assume you meant this as natural, but you have no spade stopper and second you were right to be thinking possible slam after 2D but 2NT suggest wasted major cards (if natural).

 

You have several ways to make a positive move depending upon your partnership style. If you play GOOD/BAD 2NT, you can bid 3C or 2N  (artificial) depending upon your style (is 3C stronger than 2N or 2N stronger than 3C). I play 3C as the stronger of the two. So you could bid 3D over 2C showing a stronger hand than 2N (which is a lebehnshol kind of thing that forces opener to rebid 3C unless he is too good to risk you passing 3C).

 

If you don't play good bad 2NT, you are still thinking possible slam over 2D. So you could rebid 2S (old fashion fourth suit forcing thing). After the jumpshift, clearly this is game force. Now over 3D you can make a game forcing raise to 4C. Since this is game force, no sweat. This shows slam interest. Who knows, your partner may have a rock crusher like,

 

QT

void

AKJT9

AKJT98

 

and this slow auction will allow you to discover the spade weakness in time to avoid slam.

 

As for your partner getting mad, he shouldn't. Your 6C bid will surely result in a good contract at least half the time, maybe more, after partner shows a strong hand and 5-6 distribution.