vuroth Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 Apologies if this question is trivial or stupid. This decision gave me pause at the table, and I wasn't sure what the right answer was. Now that I've played the hand, I'm afraid the result might be influencing my judgement. [hv=d=e&v=e&w=s8hqt3dkq86caj984&s=s6h97542dj542cq76]266|200|Scoring: IMP[/hv]Bidding:1♠ P 2♣ P2♦ P 3♦ P3♥ P 3NT P4NT P 5♠ P6♦ P P P The play:♠6 ♠8 ♠9 ♠T♠A ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dicklont Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 ♥2Don't ruff, maybe you 4-card makes declarers live difficult.I don't like the lead, it helps declarer develope spades, which could be expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 Discard. Why throw a likely trump trick away? What ever your agreements, for me this would be H9, neg. for hearts. Of course you may reconsider, why did you lead a spadein the first place? It is their suit, i.e. getting an ruff immediate was remote at best, it was their suit, they will have the Ace, and youhave a near certain trump trick. The normal choice would have been a heart. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vuroth Posted October 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 Of course you may reconsider, why did you lead a spadein the first place? Yes, this is an awfully good question. I need to start questioning my "automatic" plays and leads, even singletons against a trump contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dicklont Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 For serious study read Mike Lawrences (who else?) book Opening leads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y66 Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 Looking at dummy, I think I'll ruff. Maybe pard has ace and king of hearts and the king of clubs and declarer has something like AKQxx xxx AT9x x. re: opening lead, I have the same problem. Not easy to fix this. Having a partner who's interested and willing to go over this part of the game helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 I also don't like the spade lead, although it obviously could have worked out well:- it is round into declarer's hand, who has 5+ spades and a strong hand, so it may pick up partner's honour holding; declarer would not have played for this spade layout otherwise.- dummy has shown clubs, diamonds and a heart stop (assuming 3H was fourth suit forcing), so a singleton in dummy is not a surprise As for what to do on the ace of spades, the one thing I am sure of is that this isn't a B/I problem, not least because I've got no idea! My immediate reaction is to ruff it. I don't think we have a probable trump trick. After we have turned up with a singleton spade, declarer is going to play us for trump length if he has to guess. And if declarer wanted to, he could have ruffed a spade low in dummy without cashing the ace. In fact, I can't work out why declarer has played the ace of spades at all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 The lead was :angry: :( But after I lead it, I have to do my work now. If I discard, so will dummy. A third round will be played, I discard and so will dummy. I will ruff low, when he overruffs and play Club and club ruff, I will discard my last club on the third spade, hoping for a miracle. Ruffing makes it difficult for him with f.e. AKQJx,Kxx,Axxx,x, true the hope is small, but what will I gain from discarding? For all those who discards: If you discard a heart, which hand do you play for that gives you a chance for success? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 Ruffing makes it difficult for him with f.e. AKQJx,Kxx,Axxx,x, true the hope is small, but what will I gain from discarding? For all those who discards: If you discard a heart, which hand do you play for that gives you a chance for success? Declarer can't have this hand.If he has, f.e. AKQJ10 Kxx A10xx then his obvious line is to draw trumps.(note that he has to have at least one of the 10 and 9 of diamodns) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vuroth Posted October 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 As it turned out, opponents had overbid, and they were down 2 pretty much regardless of how poorly I defended. I was looking to take a lesson from the hand regardless of the result, and I think that lesson is to be found in the opening lead. Thanks. V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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