nige1 Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 [hv=d=e&v=b&s=sa65ha95432d72cat]133|100|Scoring: IMPEast opens 2♠, a 5 card 8-11HCP hand. Do you overcall 3♥ with[/hv] IMO 3♥ = 10, _P = 7.I reckon that it pays to be conservative in 2nd seat. But if you held ♠Axx ♥AK9xx ♦xxx ♣AT. then you would probably risk a 2N or 3♥ overcall And this hand has similar playing strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 Yawn, right again :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcurt Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 1100? What line did your partner take? Even if the opponents led clubs (best) it only looks like 500 to me. Your partner's hand isn't much better than average for the auction and position. I'm not a big fan of the 3NT call. He played you for ♥AQJxxx, the ♦A, and some black stuff too. If you had a hand that wanted to catch a raise to 3NT on a random 9-count, you would have overcalled 2NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effervesce Posted October 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 1100? What line did your partner take? Even if the opponents led clubs (best) it only looks like 500 to me. Your partner's hand isn't much better than average for the auction and position. I'm not a big fan of the 3NT call. He played you for ♥AQJxxx, the ♦A, and some black stuff too. If you had a hand that wanted to catch a raise to 3NT on a random 9-count, you would have overcalled 2NT. He played for hearts 3-3 rather than playing on diamonds. He therefore lost 2 hearts, 4 clubs and 2 diamonds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcurt Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 1100? What line did your partner take? Even if the opponents led clubs (best) it only looks like 500 to me. Your partner's hand isn't much better than average for the auction and position. I'm not a big fan of the 3NT call. He played you for ♥AQJxxx, the ♦A, and some black stuff too. If you had a hand that wanted to catch a raise to 3NT on a random 9-count, you would have overcalled 2NT. He played for hearts 3-3 rather than playing on diamonds. He therefore lost 2 hearts, 4 clubs and 2 diamonds. Isn't there a commuications issue with this line? On a club lead you don't have the entries. On a high spade lead lead you have to unguard a black suit. On a heart lead you might be able to read the position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 1100? What line did your partner take? Even if the opponents led clubs (best) it only looks like 500 to me. Your partner's hand isn't much better than average for the auction and position. I'm not a big fan of the 3NT call. He played you for ♥AQJxxx, the ♦A, and some black stuff too. If you had a hand that wanted to catch a raise to 3NT on a random 9-count, you would have overcalled 2NT. With 6 hearts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 1100? What line did your partner take? Even if the opponents led clubs (best) it only looks like 500 to me. Your partner's hand isn't much better than average for the auction and position. I'm not a big fan of the 3NT call. He played you for ♥AQJxxx, the ♦A, and some black stuff too. If you had a hand that wanted to catch a raise to 3NT on a random 9-count, you would have overcalled 2NT. IMO, he played you for a real 3♥ call. Passing over 3♥ is chicken bridge. I saw someone do something a little more egregious the other night in a pair game at a local sectional. I opened 5♦ in first seat white against red and my LHO overcalled 5♥. My RHO passed holding AKQxx Jx Ax KJxx. Declarer could not quite handle the hand, and did lost a trick. 680 was not a great success for their side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcurt Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 1100? What line did your partner take? Even if the opponents led clubs (best) it only looks like 500 to me. Your partner's hand isn't much better than average for the auction and position. I'm not a big fan of the 3NT call. He played you for ♥AQJxxx, the ♦A, and some black stuff too. If you had a hand that wanted to catch a raise to 3NT on a random 9-count, you would have overcalled 2NT. IMO, he played you for a real 3♥ call. Passing over 3♥ is chicken bridge. I saw someone do something a little more egregious the other night in a pair game at a local sectional. I opened 5♦ in first seat white against red and my LHO overcalled 5♥. My RHO passed holding AKQxx Jx Ax KJxx. Declarer could not quite handle the hand, and did lost a trick. 680 was not a great success for their side. I know 3♥ here shows more playing strength than a minimum opener with a decent suit. But responder knows his side's fit is bad. Bidding 3NT, then, is betting on a make on power, which is equivalent to playing partner for something like 16++ here. Most of the time, partner's overcall will be near his minimum. I agree completely that passing because we don't have full limit values with at least three trumps is an error in these auctions -- but that applies when we're coming in partner's suit, which we aren't. Now the guy that passed in your example, that's just sick. I would be worrying about missing grand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 3♥ is very wide-ranging. We cannot really blame pard for bidding 3NT. He's as guilty as the frisky overcall. I'd rank this one more like "preempts work" and "best defense vs prees: get lucky." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 3♥ is very wide-ranging. We cannot really blame pard for bidding 3NT. He's as guilty as the frisky overcall. I'd rank this one more like "preempts work" and "best defense vs prees: get lucky." OH boy i have to strongly disagree here. Its a risky overcall even at the 2 level, to make it at the 3 level is just plain ugly and wrong. As for 3NT is the only bid, passing is just inconceivable. 100% blame to the overcaller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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