Lobowolf Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 Ya know, for as much as Sarah Palin bugs people for her speech/style (leaving positions aside for this one), BY FAR nothing any of the Final Four does grates on my nerves as McCain's "My friends" every 10 seconds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 I have had a long-held daydream of screaming at him I'M NOT YOUR FRIEND! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 as far as substance goes, i don't see a lot from either but imo mccain is losing even more ground tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 as far as substance goes, i don't see a lot from either but imo mccain is losing even more ground tonight I agree, I don't think it was much of a performance from either, but McCain had those two awful moments. His whole style is so dumbed down, I can't even tolerate it. I really liked Obama's response to the one time McCain busted out "he doesn't understand....", but otherwise I think he could have done a fair amount better. The thing is though, he didn't have to... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmat Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 as far as substance goes, i don't see a lot from either but imo mccain is losing even more ground tonight I agree, I don't think it was much of a performance from either, but McCain had those two awful moments. His whole style is so dumbed down, I can't even tolerate it. I really liked Obama's response to the one time McCain busted out "he doesn't understand....", but otherwise I think he could have done a fair amount better. The thing is though, he didn't have to... doing better would require a surgically precise slam of McCain; the drawback is that if Obama were to miss, he would come off as arrogant and inappropriate. re your "friend" comment... my kneejerk reaction was that that was sounding remarkably like the lyrics from the wall... would, would you like to seebrittania rule again,my friend... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTodd13 Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 From both of them I heard "We're spending too much....(10 seconds later)....here's billions of additional spending to fix our problems." You have to love the "we got in this mess due to deregulation mantra." Of course, the problem could not possibly be the mandates and the creation of two mortgage giants to give loans to people who didn't have the credit needed to otherwise qualify. Politics is a joke. They never even get close to addressing the fundamental issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 Of course, the problem could not possibly be the mandates and the creation of two mortgage giants to give loans to people who didn't have the credit needed to otherwise qualify. In fairness to McCain, didn't he say exactly that? Granted he blamed only the opposition party for it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 yeah... the buzz today is about mccain's 300 billion plan to buy mortgages and refinance them... people are saying it's a great idea, as if nationalizing yet one more thing is good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 yeah... the buzz today is about mccain's 300 billion plan to buy mortgages and refinance them... people are saying it's a great idea, as if nationalizing yet one more thing is good Who is saying it's a great idea? It sure sounded like a terrible idea to me, and that's all I've heard anyone else say as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 i was listening to the talking heads after the debate, and most from both sides said it sounded like a good idea... if that's changed this morning, it's changed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 By chance, were they talking fox-heads? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 By chance, were they talking fox-heads? i said "from both sides" ... i watched the debate on nbc and switched between that and cbs (because, even though she's taken a lot of heat, i still like katie)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 By chance, were they talking fox-heads? i said "from both sides" ... i watched the debate on nbc and switched between that and cbs (because, even though she's taken a lot of heat, i still like katie)... That's cool. I wasn't consider the people on NBC CBS ABC "talking heads". I generally watch CNN, although I watched the debate on NBC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenberg Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 McCain's "My friends" did bother me some. What bothered me more was all the talk about how great the American worker is and how great Americans are and how great ... Who can remember it all? If I spent that much time telling my wife how great she is I think she would get very suspicious about what I was up to. I wanted to say "If we are all so damn great why is the economy out of control?" Don't get me wrong. I love this country. But I don't feel the need to go up to some working guy and tell him how great he is. And I'm great. And you're great. My dog is great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jikl Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 So who does McCain on SNL? And how many times will "my friend/s" come up? And will "maverick" be mentioned? :D Sean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenberg Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 To balance the scales a bit, I also had a bit of a problem with one of Obama"a remarks. I don't have the transcript but as I recall he mentioned that he had traveled to Afghanistan and had told Karzai that he would have to do better. I have tried without success to imagine this conversation: Hi, I'm Barack Obama. I'm running for the presidency in the US and I felt I should drop in to let you know you have really screwed the pooch here. Something like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_U_Card Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 My least favorite is when McCain gets up and walks around with that right arm held out at a right angle. He looks like he is dancing the robot and he fell asleep in mid-step. :angry: :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_U_Card Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 I am also not so crazy about Palin's open-mouth...in every still picture. I am sure it has something to do with oral fixations or something else oral... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PassedOut Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 I noticed Obama's frequent use of the word "and" as a time-filler while he chose his next sentence. It often seems to me that McCain struggles to keep his anger in check. Even so, I was a bit surprised to see this piece by Michael Kinsley today: At the Craps Tables With John McCain “McCain immediately turned to the woman and said between clenched teeth: ‘DON’T TOUCH ME.’ The woman started to explain...McCain interrupted her: ‘DON’T TOUCH ME,’ he repeated viciously. The woman again tried to explain. ‘DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM? DO YOU KNOW WHO YOU’RE TALKING TO?’ McCain continued, his voice rising and his hands now raised in the ‘bring it on’ position. He was red-faced. By this time all the action at the table had stopped. I was completely shocked. McCain had totally lost it, and in the space of about ten seconds. ‘Sir, you must be courteous to the other players at the table,’ the pit boss said to McCain. “DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM? ASK ANYBODY AROUND HERE WHO I AM.”Guess he's not "Mr. Congeniality" at the craps table either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmat Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 i am not a huge fan of people declaring their "last point" in a conversation... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiffy Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 I noticed Obama's frequent use of the word "and" as a time-filler while he chose his next sentence. It often seems to me that McCain struggles to keep his anger in check. Even so, I was a bit surprised to see this piece by Michael Kinsley today: At the Craps Tables With John McCain “McCain immediately turned to the woman and said between clenched teeth: ‘DON’T TOUCH ME.’ The woman started to explain...McCain interrupted her: ‘DON’T TOUCH ME,’ he repeated viciously. The woman again tried to explain. ‘DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM? DO YOU KNOW WHO YOU’RE TALKING TO?’ McCain continued, his voice rising and his hands now raised in the ‘bring it on’ position. He was red-faced. By this time all the action at the table had stopped. I was completely shocked. McCain had totally lost it, and in the space of about ten seconds. ‘Sir, you must be courteous to the other players at the table,’ the pit boss said to McCain. “DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM? ASK ANYBODY AROUND HERE WHO I AM.”Guess he's not "Mr. Congeniality" at the craps table either. The woman McCain addressed has tried to put his hand above the table, however friendly, via force. It then might be possible that he just panicked. He has experienced torture and still suffers from pain today. Maybe, really just maybe, what he meant when he said "Do you know who i am?" is that he presumed his conditions to be known or made known to people he deals with. Then, in the casual environment of a dice game he might have let his guards down only to experience something that he sees as an assault on his privacy and well-being.I am neither a friend nor enemy of McCain, it just struck me that it is possible for this whole situation to not be exactly as it seems. Maybe this could also be the reason why none of the journalists present made this incident known to the public.However, as President of the USA, one might want to wish someone more emotionally stable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 The Daily Show did a funny recap of the debate yesterday. Nice spoof on McCain's idea to solve Medicare by having the smartest people in America meet up and come up with ideas. ("My 4 year old son came up with the same plan! And I like his defense plan too, create a League of Strong People") Then he pictured the smartest people in America gathered around a table to solve Medicare. Bill Gates, Stephen Hawking, Lex Luthor, Dear Abby.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenberg Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 If I were at the dice table and either Obama or McCain was within touching distance, I think I would move away to give him space. I sure as hell would not reach out and grab his hand. Quite possibly the woman did not know who he was. Even then it seems rather assuming. Still, if the description of his behavior is accurate, it seems bizarre. The whole situation seems bizarre. Being president requires giving up a few pleasures, as Bill Clinton found out. A night out in the casino, mingling freely with the other high-rollers, may be something that will have to go on hold if he becomes president. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 My least favorite is when McCain gets up and walks around with that right arm held out at a right angle. He looks like he is dancing the robot and he fell asleep in mid-step. :( B) you do know why the arm is as it is, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_U_Card Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 Indeed, but Bob Dole held a pencil and FDR stayed behind the rostrum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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