plaur Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 [hv=d=w&v=n&s=sa32hqt95dk4ckqt4]133|100|Scoring: IMPp - 1♦ - 3♣*- X 3♠ - p - p - ?* 5-5 clubs and spadesTeams with new p and teammates. Partner opens 1♦, we are vul vs not. No agreement on defense vs twosuited. Default agreement of X: I have penalty of (at least) one of their suits P.S. No shots were fired. Not even one unpleasant word from p :)[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 3N, this rates to make very frequently. 3♠ rates to go down too, but I think it will go for 300 most of the time. Also, I disagree that the first double should be penalty-oriented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 Default agreement of X: I have penalty of (at least) one of their suitsNot sure if this is a good agreement here. If DBL of 3C is passed to your partner how will he know if he has to pass or not - If you have paenalty against 3C or 3S? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcLight Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 What would be wrong with bidding 3NT rather than X for the first bid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 3NT. The bid you should have made the roundbefore. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfay Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 3N, this rates to make very frequently. 3♠ rates to go down too, but I think it will go for 300 most of the time. Also, I disagree that the first double should be penalty-oriented. Agree with this 100%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 Ugh. I hate 3N. Unless partner turns up with a surprise ♠ stopper or the ♣ A (both unlikely) we will have to scramble eight tricks in the red suits to get our 600. I would be willing to bet that 4♥ is a better contract than 3N most of the time, but how can we possibly find that now? LHO will have three spades very frequently, and we are flat out killing 3♠ with a trump lead. DOUBLE ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaur Posted October 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 [hv=d=w&v=n&n=sq8hj632daj52ca98&w=s975ha74dt98763c7&e=skjt64hk8dqcj6532&s=sa32hqt95dk4ckqt4]399|300|Scoring: IMPp - 1♦ - 3♣*- X 3♠ - p - p - 3NT* 5-5 clubs and spadesLead ♠9[/hv]I bid 3 NT. Other table made 4♥ for a vul gameswing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 LHO will have three spades very frequently, and we are flat out killing 3♠ with a trump lead. DOUBLE ! Wdp. Just have to be careful to defend accurately thereafter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 LHO will have three spades very frequently, and we are flat out killing 3♠ with a trump lead. DOUBLE ! Wdp. Just have to be careful to defend accurately thereafter. Well; lose 8 instead of 12 :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 LHO will have three spades very frequently, and we are flat out killing 3♠ with a trump lead. DOUBLE ! Wdp. Just have to be careful to defend accurately thereafter. Well; lose 8 instead of 12 :) I have it as lose 4 so perk up. B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickRW Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 I don't see what was wrong with X - if it showed 4 hearts - rather than this, IMO rather silly, penalty X of one or other of their suits. You can still bid 3N later if that seems right then. Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 I don't like looking for 4-4 fits when one of the opponents has shown a 5-5. If double is takeout it should be 5 hearts with tolerance for diamonds. Penalty of clubs would also make a lot of sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 3♠x goes for 500, doesn't it? That would be 3 IMPs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 3♠x goes for 500, doesn't it? That would be 3 IMPs. Oops. Yeah. 120 difference would be 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 3♠x goes for 500, doesn't it? That would be 3 IMPs. How are you getting 3♠ for 500? You can't draw dummy's trump, and effectively use diamonds as a tap suit. I think the offense should get 4♠, 2♥ and a club in the wash. For instance, trump lead, lose a club, A♠, ♠. Lose a club. Win the heart shift in hand, lose a club. Heart won on the board, ruff a heart lose the last club. Unless I'm missing something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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