lancerglxi Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 Hi All Any idea where I can get the 5 books written by Robert Danielson? Book 1 Relay Precision The One Heart Relay, Book 2 Book 3 Relay Precision Major Suit Responses & The Unlimited Notrump Book 4 Book 5 Relay Precision The Catch-All Opening Appreciate any help. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 Hi, and welcome to the forum! I hope you will enjoy our company ;) Google is your friend: The Victorian Bridge Association have them in their library. www.blainehowe.com/BookRoot/bookFind.php It looks as if you can get at least one of them at postfree. users.bigpond.net.au/postfree/books/authD.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impact Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 Well, I have a copy of them.... It is largely old-fashioned material now (given that it is 30 years old) and relays have come a long way since then. What it does do is give you all the CTC hands from BW in a format to test your bidding - and that is useful. Some of the decisions in auctions he recommends are rather double-dummy but the sheer array of different asking bids and relays is vast (albeit more economically useful in other formats eg symmetric relay with many relay breaks using asking bids from Danielson). The single greatest benefit he managed was to revise the 1D opening to be a utility bid which COULD be managed in competition by NOT making assumptions about D length etc. The long-lasting features are many negative free bids (probably overtaken by transfers/Rubensohl in a modern setting) and some useful ideas over high level interference following amporphous openings (and some of the NT continuations which live on in the Italian top pairs' methods). send me a PM if you are interested.. fred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrecisionL Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 Me too! Robert J. Danielson's RELAY PRECISION, 1977, 129 Tracy Place, Hackensack, NJ 07601 Book 2: Higher Rebids & Interference Book 4: Minor Suit & Special Responses Book 5: The Catch-All 1 Diamond Bid Interesting for the Challenge the Champs examples. I have not used any of his ideas, I prefer Transfer Responses. Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 Me too! Robert J. Danielson's RELAY PRECISION, 1977, 129 Tracy Place, Hackensack, NJ 07601 Book 2: Higher Rebids & Interference Book 4: Minor Suit & Special Responses Book 5: The Catch-All 1 Diamond Bid Interesting for the Challenge the Champs examples. I have not used any of his ideas, I prefer Transfer Responses. Larry Hi, Larry, how you doing? Just out of curiosity, are you familiar with Romex Forcing Club, and if so, what do you think of it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerglxi Posted October 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 Hi, and welcome to the forum! I hope you will enjoy our company :) Google is your friend: The Victorian Bridge Association have them in their library. www.blainehowe.com/BookRoot/bookFind.php It looks as if you can get at least one of them at postfree. users.bigpond.net.au/postfree/books/authD.htm Thanks. I bought Books 2 and 4 from Postfree. Unable to get the rest despite internet search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerglxi Posted October 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 Me too! Robert J. Danielson's RELAY PRECISION, 1977, 129 Tracy Place, Hackensack, NJ 07601 Book 2: Higher Rebids & Interference Book 4: Minor Suit & Special Responses Book 5: The Catch-All 1 Diamond Bid Interesting for the Challenge the Champs examples. I have not used any of his ideas, I prefer Transfer Responses. Larry I have books 2 & 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrecisionL Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 Hi, Larry, how you doing? Just out of curiosity, are you familiar with Romex Forcing Club, and if so, what do you think of it?Hi Ed, doing OK. Yes, I have all of the Romex books. Interesting, never found anyone to play and still prefer Transfer Strong Club (a la Sabine Auken). Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 People seem to hear "Romex" and run away screaming. I don't know why. B) The thing I find interesting is the effort to which Rosenkranz went to make it easy to play Romex/RFC as a "two card" system. The natural 1M openings aren't much different; everything from 2♠ up is the same, and so is 2♦ so the major differences are that playing RFC all the hands you would open with 1NT or 2♣ in Romex are opened 1♣, and in RFC 1NT is the mini and 2♣ is natural. Oh, and 2♥ is the "Precision 2♦ 3 suited opening. Aside from the lack of willing partners, the main problem with this system, at least around here, is finding a place where you can play it. Three of the openings (2♥ when NV, and 2NT and 4NT at all vulnerabilities) are Midchart, and most club owners don't like the Dynamic NT either, even though it's GCC. :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerglxi Posted October 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 Well, I have a copy of them.... It is largely old-fashioned material now (given that it is 30 years old) and relays have come a long way since then. What it does do is give you all the CTC hands from BW in a format to test your bidding - and that is useful. Some of the decisions in auctions he recommends are rather double-dummy but the sheer array of different asking bids and relays is vast (albeit more economically useful in other formats eg symmetric relay with many relay breaks using asking bids from Danielson). The single greatest benefit he managed was to revise the 1D opening to be a utility bid which COULD be managed in competition by NOT making assumptions about D length etc. The long-lasting features are many negative free bids (probably overtaken by transfers/Rubensohl in a modern setting) and some useful ideas over high level interference following amporphous openings (and some of the NT continuations which live on in the Italian top pairs' methods). send me a PM if you are interested.. fred Hi Fred I have send you a PM. Very much interested. Thanks.Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelWheel Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 I have all those old Danielson pamphlets around somewhere also. I think part of the author's intent was to come up with a relay corresponding to every letter in the Greek alphabet--there were alpha, beta, gamma, etc, going right on through iota, zeta, and omega, IIRC. It was almost as if the philosophy was "if there's a Greek letter we haven't used yet, then the system must not be complete!" :) The one concept of his that I really took a shine to, was the use of the one heart relay as some sort of artificial force--although I think my crowd and I use it for some different hand types than Danielson suggested. We use a second round 1♥ call by opener to show either one-suiters in hearts, or two-suiters with hearts as one of the primary suits, or certain big balanced notrump hands. Responder bids 1♠ about 97% of the time, and opener would let partner in on the story on the third round. Responder is allowed to break the relay only with very weak hands with a long suit, suggesting that it may be time to slam on the brakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerglxi Posted November 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 Well, I have a copy of them.... It is largely old-fashioned material now (given that it is 30 years old) and relays have come a long way since then. What it does do is give you all the CTC hands from BW in a format to test your bidding - and that is useful. Some of the decisions in auctions he recommends are rather double-dummy but the sheer array of different asking bids and relays is vast (albeit more economically useful in other formats eg symmetric relay with many relay breaks using asking bids from Danielson). The single greatest benefit he managed was to revise the 1D opening to be a utility bid which COULD be managed in competition by NOT making assumptions about D length etc. The long-lasting features are many negative free bids (probably overtaken by transfers/Rubensohl in a modern setting) and some useful ideas over high level interference following amporphous openings (and some of the NT continuations which live on in the Italian top pairs' methods). send me a PM if you are interested.. fred Hi Fred I have send you a PM. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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