Is This a 1NT Opener?

[rogerclee]

First Seat, Matchpoints, All Red

 

♠AJx ♥Tx ♦Ax ♣AKxxxx

 

Plan?

[cherdano]

1C then 3C. I don't have strong convictions that this is better than opening 1N, but with such a suit-oriented hand it is 100% clear for me to open 1C.

[mike777]

yes 1nt...prefer to try and have a stiff or void if I am going to open and jump rebid a minor.

 

As a side note playing 14-16 nt I think this is too good to open 1nt so I plan to open one club and rebid 3c over 1s response but 2nt(17) over 1h response.

[effervesce]

1NT opener for me. The shape isn't great for 1♣ then 3♣, and at MPs you don't aim for 5♣ unless you absolutely have to.

[Lobowolf]

Bid Like Zia, Part 3: 1♣, then 1♠ over a red suit response?!

 

 

1♣ then 3♣ for me, also. Certainly wouldn't complain if partner opened 1NT.

[the hog]

1NT. I like to open 1NT as often as I can.

[fred]

IMO this hand is too strong for 1NT.

 

I kind of like 1C then 2NT, but hard to be too critical of 1C-3C which is surely the "textbook" way to bid this hand.

 

Fred Gitelman

Bridge Base Inc.

www.bridgebase.com

[MickyB]

IMO this hand is too strong for 1NT.

 

I kind of like 1C then 2NT, but hard to be too critical of 1C-3C which is surely the "textbook" way to bid this hand.

Agreed, can't think of anything else to say.

[kenrexford]

IMO this hand is too strong for 1NT.

 

I kind of like 1C then 2NT, but hard to be too critical of 1C-3C which is surely the "textbook" way to bid this hand.

Agreed, can't think of anything else to say.

I agree also, but I do have something to say (of course).

 

My initial reaction was, "1♣, and then decide whether to bid 2NT or 3♣ depending on the developments."

[skjaeran]

This hand is definitely too strong for 1NT.

 

I'll open 1♣, planning to rebid 2NT over 1♦ or 1♠ (using transfer responses), 1♠ over 1♥ and show my strength next round.

[P_Marlowe]

1C followed by 3C.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[helene_t]

Agree with Harald, this is a good hand for T-Walsh if partner has spades. Not playing T-Walsh make it more attractive to open 1NT, if one doesn't think the hand is too strong for that.

[shintaro]

:)

 

This is easy for anyone playing the Proper System (ACOL)

 

1♣ intending to show strength next time

 

Acol is such an Easy game B)

[ArcLight]

Since this is MP, wont the field be in 1C - 3C?

So isnt that the bidding you want to follow?

 

Also, I want pard to declare, with the heart, and perhaps second Dime stoppers.

 

If pard has Qxx in Dimes, and Kxx in hearts, along with a few Clubs, he should declare.

[Lobowolf]

1♠ over 1♥

Yay!

[pclayton]

IMO this hand is too strong for 1NT.

 

I kind of like 1C then 2NT, but hard to be too critical of 1C-3C which is surely the "textbook" way to bid this hand.

 

Fred Gitelman

Bridge Base Inc.

www.bridgebase.com

Right on. Anyone that calls this a balanced 15-17 needs a remedial lesson in basic hand evaluation.

[jdonn]

1♠ over 1♥

Yay!

You are aware he specified "playing transfer responses", right?

[Lobowolf]

1♠ over 1♥

Yay!

You are aware he specified "playing transfer responses", right?

Damn. I missed that. I was having such a nice Friday, too.

[skjaeran]

1♠ over 1♥

Yay!

You are aware he specified "playing transfer responses", right?

Damn. I missed that. I was having such a nice Friday, too.

Well, don't let such a small thing destroy your day then! Have a nice weekend! :P

[rogerclee]

Anyone that calls this a balanced 15-17 needs a remedial lesson in basic hand evaluation.

This hand is from a Challenge the Champs bidding contest. I decided to use the "normal" 1♣ then 3♣ sequence for a zero (I was surprised by this score!). Partner has ♠Qxx ♥K9x ♦Q9xxxx ♣x.

 

Of the two pairs in the challenge, one plays strong club, so they had a huge system gain: 1♣-1♦; 2♣-2♦ to the top spot. Elahmady and Sadek was the other pair, playing a fairly natural system. He opened 1♣ and rebid 2♣! This got them to 3♦, the next best spot.

 

Kokish recommends opening 1NT (albeit with a question mark) with this hand in his BWS auction.

[jdonn]

Of the two pairs in the challenge, one plays strong club, so they had a huge system gain: 1♣-1♦; 2♣-2♦

Which pair? Surprising they play that as non-forcing, or for that matter that they play it as natural.

[rogerclee]

Of the two pairs in the challenge, one plays strong club, so they had a huge system gain: 1♣-1♦; 2♣-2♦

Which pair? Surprising they play that as non-forcing, or for that matter that they play it as natural.

David Rowntree - Dougin Walker

[awm]

Definitely 1♣...3♣ for me. Opening 1NT on this hand seems quite bad. In addition to having too much playing strength, this hand is heavy on controls (easy to have game or slam opposite a mild fit; even x xxxx Kxxx xxxx is virtually cold for a game). And you don't even really have tenaces to protect -- if 3NT is the right contract it will likely play as well or better from partner's side.

 

1♣...2NT is better on values, but still has the risk of missing a fitting club game/slam or wrong siding a contract. I admit I'm never going to reach game opposite my example 3-count (barring a strong club system perhaps) but at least I'd like to get to game if we give partner an extra queen somewhere on top of that. Rebidding 3♣ should prompt a raise from four-card support and a side singleton, whereas rebidding 2NT will prompt a pass from a five-point hand without a long suit (since four-card support for opener's "could be three card" minor is not a huge bonus).

[P_Marlowe]

<snip>

Elahmady and Sadek was the other pair, playing a fairly natural system. He opened 1♣ and rebid 2♣! This got them to 3♦, the next best spot.

<snip>

Some switch the meaning of openers

2C / 3C rebid.

A method I like, but I did not get p to

play it.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe