Mr. Dodgy Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 [hv=d=w&v=b&s=st32h6432dkqt8ck5]133|100|Scoring: XIMPopps silent 1♦-1♥-1♠-?[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 2♦. This rates to be a better contract than 1NT, given that I have Kx in the unbid suit and good trump support for partner's 4+ card suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 2♦ (or rather 2♣ puppet to 2♦ and pass). At IMPs (or XIMPs) this is rather obvious. We rate to take at least a trick more playing in our fit, and opps might have a running heart suit and a few tricks here and there in NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 1 NT. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimG Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 2♦. This rates to be a better contract than 1NT, given that I have Kx in the unbid suit and good trump support for partner's 4+ card suit. Isn't Kx in an unbid suit a reason to bid 1NT (and protect the holding by becoming declarer)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 1NT is horrible. Yes, we have a club stop but other than that all our high cards are in partner's suit. I would only bid 1NT if partner could be 4=3=3=3 and has opened better minor; even opposite a possible 4243/4342 2D rates to be a better spot. And if partner has promised an unbalanced hand 2D is even more obvious. 3D is not unreasonable, but 2D is normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmunte1 Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 2♦, playing in our 4-4+ fit, with obvious potential for ruffing, adding the chance that hearts could be unstopped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 1NT is a beginner bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimG Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 2♦. This rates to be a better contract than 1NT, given that I have Kx in the unbid suit and good trump support for partner's 4+ card suit. Isn't Kx in an unbid suit a reason to bid 1NT (and protect the holding by becoming declarer)? Though I am often guilty of beginner bids, just to be clear, I was not advocating for a 1NT bid, just pointing out that I thought it strange the ♣Kx was given as a reason not to bid 1NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 2♦. This rates to be a better contract than 1NT, given that I have Kx in the unbid suit and good trump support for partner's 4+ card suit. Isn't Kx in an unbid suit a reason to bid 1NT (and protect the holding by becoming declarer)? Though I am often guilty of beginner bids, just to be clear, I was not advocating for a 1NT bid, just pointing out that I thought it strange the ♣Kx was given as a reason not to bid 1NT. I wasn't aiming at you or anyone in particular, it is simply how I view the bids. Kx tends to be a very suit oriented holding, by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 In my opinion there is one reason to bid 1NT,which was not yet mentioned: 1NT sounds a lot more constructive / positvethan 2D, of course the sound of the 1NT bidmay be different to your ears. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 In my opinion there is one reason to bid 1NT,which was not yet mentioned: 1NT sounds a lot more constructive / positvethan 2D, of course the sound of the 1NT bidmay be different to your ears. With kind regardsMarlowe Do you think this hand is outside the range of 2♦? It looks like it could be in the dictionary next to what 2♦ shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 In my opinion there is one reason to bid 1NT,which was not yet mentioned: 1NT sounds a lot more constructive / positvethan 2D, of course the sound of the 1NT bidmay be different to your ears. With kind regardsMarlowe Do you think this hand is outside the range of 2♦? It looks like it could be in the dictionary next to what 2♦ shows. I think it's a maximum for 2D. After all, if partner has some (carefully constructed) minimum such as KQxxxAxxxxAxx then 5D is a playable contract (not much worse than SA onside or Jx) I don't think 1NT shows any more high cards than 2D, merely a different hand type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 In my opinion there is one reason to bid 1NT,which was not yet mentioned: 1NT sounds a lot more constructive / positvethan 2D, of course the sound of the 1NT bidmay be different to your ears. With kind regardsMarlowe Do you think this hand is outside the range of 2♦? It looks like it could be in the dictionary next to what 2♦ shows. No. But most of the time a 2D response will be based on more shape. We have high cards, making 3NT an option.After 2D partner may not or may not go looking forgame 11 tricks are a lot. I looked at the comments, which said, we play IMPslets settle for the safest part score, ..., well I dont envision going down, I think game is still a likelyscenario.But as I said, it may well be, that I am alone in hearingthe difference in 1NT and 2D.sound bet With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 In my opinion there is one reason to bid 1NT,which was not yet mentioned: 1NT sounds a lot more constructive / positvethan 2D, of course the sound of the 1NT bidmay be different to your ears. With kind regardsMarlowe Do you think this hand is outside the range of 2♦? It looks like it could be in the dictionary next to what 2♦ shows. No. But most of the time a 2D response will be based on more shape. We have high cards, making 3NT an option.After 2D partner may not or may not go looking forgame 11 tricks are a lot. I looked at the comments, which said, we play IMPslets settle for the safest part score, ..., well I dont envision going down, I think game is still a likelyscenario.But as I said, it may well be, that I am alone in hearingthe difference in 1NT and 2D.sound bet With kind regardsMarlowe 3NT is still in the picture after 2♦. 1NT and 2♦ shows the same range. If partner rebids 2NT we've got an easy raise. Besides, we've most probably rightsided it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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