han Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 Here are a few hands from the Smithtown regional, my apologies to those who dislike threads with more than 1 hand. 1. [hv=d=n&v=e&s=shakxxxdxxxcqxxxx]133|100|Scoring: MPp - (1S) - ??[/hv] 2. [hv=d=n&v=e&s=shakxxxdxxxcqxxxx]133|100|Scoring: MPp - (1S) - ??[/hv] 3. [hv=d=n&v=e&s=shakxxxdxxxcqxxxx]133|100|Scoring: MPp - (1S) - ??[/hv] 4. [hv=d=n&v=e&s=shakxxxdxxxcqxxxx]133|100|Scoring: MPp - (1S) - ??[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 1. 2♥2. Abstain. Not so familiar with expert standard notrump structure.3. 2♣ and this one I feel strongly about!4. ♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlickRicky Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 Hi Han, Hand 1 seems like an obvious Michaels bid at these colors. I hope to find a cheap sacrifice or to be able to compete in clubs. I play Michaels as weak or strong, and this qualifies as weak for me! Hand 2 obviously depends some on agreements, I will admit that my agreements do not allow me to show 5-6 immediately. I would have to start wtih 2H then 3H over 2S showing a 5-5+ GF. Not ideal, but it does not preclude 5-6 the way I play it. Hand 3 is strong enough in playing strength to start with a double, but I prefer to overcall 2C with a hand like this as I have a stiff heart. The auction can time out better this way. Hand 4 I would always lead the CK, sure they probably have a club control but everything else is speculative and maybe I can just sit back and get 2 tricks with bad splits for declarer. Ricky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 1. 2♠. Too many good things can come out of competing, versus just a few negatives. I am aware that we might be tipping off pard's spades here. 2. I usually have some kind of toy for 5-5 hands; either re-transfers or Weissburger. Having none of that I transfer to hearts and bid 3♠. 3. 2♣. 3N is tempting but 5 or 6♣ could be the spot. I'd need a much better hand to double, and I might not do it then. 4. K♣. Heart is a long shot but could work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 2. I usually have some kind of toy for 5-5 hands; either re-transfers or Weissburger. Having none of that I transfer to hearts and bid 3♠. Psyching splinter bids is usually unwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted September 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 I was hoping for more planning on hand 2. If you show 5-5 GF then partner will bid 4S. On 3, if you bid 2C it will go pass pass double. What next? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkDean Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 1. 2♠ 2. 2♦ followed by 4♦. Clearly could fail badly if partner is 42 in the majors, but I think this is the most likely way to get him to bid on with the right hands. 3. 2♣. I would like a more flexible hand for x followed by clubs. 4. Diamond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlickRicky Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 I was hoping for more planning on hand 2. If you show 5-5 GF then partner will bid 4S. On 3, if you bid 2C it will go pass pass double. What next? Hi Han, Partner jumping to 4S seems really unusual over 1N-2H-2S-3H. Why wouldn't he just bid 3S to set spades and allow cuebidding? To be honest I think the auction should be impossible (or have some very tight definition that I don't know of). I would guess at the table partner is trying to do some kind of fast arrival with a terrible hand for the majors, so I would pass. Had partner instead bid 3S, I would have cuebid 4C, and over the expected 4D I would bid 4H. If partner signs off over this I will move again (I don't need much) with 5C, and after that I will give up (partner should know good trumps are huge in this auction). On hand 3 I would start with XX and plan to later bid spades. This should not put too much emphasis on my spades (I hope). Ricky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted September 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 Misunderstood a comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 I was hoping for more planning on hand 2. If you show 5-5 GF then partner will bid 4S.I transfer to spades and bid 3♥. I don't play with people who like to bid 4♠ over that, so presuming he bids 3♠ I will bid 4♣ (unless I'm playing 4♦ shows shortness). If he signs off over that, I will cuebid 5 of whatever minor I didn't bid 4 of. After that if he subsides again I will let it die. If he cooperates at any point, then I will look for an opportunity to jump to 6♥ and try to suggest it may be the better trump suit. I may do this even at the expense of searching for a grand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted September 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 If you play that 1NT-2H-2S-3H shows a GF with 5-5 in the majors then partner will indeed bid 3S. Over a cuebid 4C he will bid 4D and over your 4H he will bid 4S. I think. Over 4D shortness he will bid 4S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 1. I'm going to buck the trend and pass. It's not that I'm worried about getting in trouble with bidding, but rather worried about giving away my hand on defense when it's unlikely we will win the auction. 2. 5-5 GF with the rest of the folks. I will cue up to once above game. 3. 2♣ seems clear, after the reopening double, I will redouble and correct a ♥ bid from partner to spades. Of course I'm not really sure what happens next. 4. I lead an unimaginative ♣K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 If you play that 1NT-2H-2S-3H shows a GF with 5-5 in the majors then partner will indeed bid 3S. Over a cuebid 4C he will bid 4D and over your 4H he will bid 4S. I think. Over 4D shortness he will bid 4S. I would bid the hands like this, then 4c cue, over 4d....cue 4h, now I pass.Partner did not super accept and now I have made 2 cuebids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 Hand #1: 2♠ Hand #2: I'm still not sure if I understand the methods or if methods are optional. I'll assume that in some way I am able to show 5-5 and have partner bid 3♠ to focus spades, I'll cue 3NT if that is serious, in which case will partner now cue 4♣? I'd actually hope that 3NT is not serious but is a step-shortness of some variety, where somethiong by me shows a void in diamonds, but what are we playing here? Hand #3: 2♣ Hand #4: What kind of wriggle and squirm did RHO exhibit? My inclination is to lead a diamond, but I might be persuaded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 1. 2♠, but I think 2♥ is ok. Pass is not ok, I would rather double than pass.2. I am driving to slam no matter what partner bids. I'll start by transferring to spades and bidding hearts.3. I double and think this is completely obvious.4. I would lead a heart, but a diamond is fine too; it is very difficult to feel strongly about either red suit over the other. I would not lead a club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 1. Pass2. Show two suited major (forcing) to keep it simple via the method mentioned above... over partners 3♠ bid, I bid 5♦ exclusion. Since I have shown two suits, six keycard blackwood in effect (partner will count kings of both majors and queens of both majors)3. 2♣ over double, I bid 2♠... on the way to at least 3♣. Redouble might not get the job done. 4. club king. Declarer can not be missing the ♦K and the heart ACE, I want to give nothing up. If he is missing them both, we might still get them when he takes a losing diamond hook later in the hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 #1 Michaels#2 Transfer to hearts, bid 3S (should be natural 6-5, ...), raise 4M to 5M, partner will bid 6M, if he has no big wastage in the minors.#3 2C, XX, followed by 3C.#4 King of clubs, wont beat it, but for anything else I am not smart enough. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 If you play that 1NT-2H-2S-3H shows a GF with 5-5 in the majors then partner will indeed bid 3S. Over a cuebid 4C he will bid 4D and over your 4H he will bid 4S. I think. Over 4D shortness he will bid 4S. 5S. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 1) 2♠ 2) Transfer to hearts, bid spades twice, probably finish in 6 unless auction times out for partner to deny a diamond control, when I might have a bash at 7. Something like: 1NT 2♦2♥ 2♠2NT 3♠4♠ 5♣5♥ 5[NT] (GSF for me) But realistically, if partner prefers spades, I expect to end in 6♠. 3)2♣, followed by XX, then depending what happens next, perhaps bid spades once then more clubs. 4) ♣K. Don't like a diamond with king fifth. A heart is probably fairly desperate, obviously relying on partner having the ♥A, but that doesn't mean it is a bad lead - perhaps the situation is desperate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted September 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 If you redouble 3C on the third hand then LHO bids 2D and partner bids 3C. Say you bid 3S now then partner bids 4H. Your call? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted September 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 For those with a little more brains I will also add what happens if you double with the strong club swan. Partner jumps to 2H and the auction quickly becomes quite interesting: (1D) - Dbl - 2H3C - 3H3S - 4S?? Partner sometimes bids a hand very well but that could be by accident. What's your next call? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 If you redouble 3C on the third hand then LHO bids 2D and partner bids 3C. Say you bid 3S now then partner bids 4H. Your call? 5♦ next as I'm willing to drive to slam now. I will bid 5♠ over 5♥ and 5NT over 5♠. Up to partner now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 If you redouble 3C on the third hand then LHO bids 2D and partner bids 3C. Say you bid 3S now then partner bids 4H. Your call? Let me see: 1♦-2♣-P-P-X-XX-2♦-3♣-P-3♠-P-4♥? Partner had insufficient values to advance 2♣, including either a raise or a new suit bid. After 2♣ is redoubled, with 2♥ and 2♠ available, he chose 3♣, but he did not pass. After our 3♠ call, he now bypasses 3NT, 4♣, and 4♦ to bid 4♥. So, what does he have? He must like the 3♠ bid. I think he has the heart Ace, Q-J of spades, and Qx of clubs. Something like ♠QJx ♥Axxx ♦xxxx ♣Qx. Actually, that may be too much for this sequence. I'm looking at the spade 10, which confuses me. Maybe Qxx in spades? Maybe J9x? I'm not sure what he has, but I'm having a difficult time assessing a hand where we do not have a shot here. 6♣ for me. EDIT: I'm NOT going to taunt partner into a grand. That cannot be right, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted September 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 Rexford you are genius, partner has J9x AJ9x xxxx Qx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 For those with a little more brains hmmm ... has Uday again corrected the body parts you were referring to? Anyway, I pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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