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[csdenmark]

Claus you are misreading your conventions.

If you play Sharif 3D it means some solid 7 card suit, ie headed by AKQ and no OUTSIDE Aces or kings!

By a quick glance it looked like both you and Flame here are right. It looks like what I have interpretated as solid is more like undisciplinary action. - The informations looks a little tricky and I have not been suspicious as I think I have been lucky partner had the missing card. Looks like solid means 8+ points in the preempt suit missing only queen or jack bot not both.

 

I also need once again compare to Namyats - in Precision preempts are something like a sub-system. As my principle is to let the others make the thinking work - it is for me only, but sometimes hard enough, only to take advantage from that. The basic is of course to interpretate correctly - and here it looks like I have been mistaken. But I need some more time to investigate.

 

Thank you for help!

[the hog]

'As my principle is to let the others make the thinking work '

 

That is an excellent principle Claus - one I thoroughly support!

Happy Easter.

 

Ron

[GijsH]

It has been interesting to see the diversity of the replies here.

I honestly can say my reply at IMP would be 5♦ and at matchpoints: pas.

(I don't even want to discuss 3NT here, disgusting!)

At rubber I would even more readily bid 5D, because:

1. vulnerable partner is supposed to have a good suit

2. nobody can blame you after the event, if it goes down it is opener's fault.

3. at rubber. vulnerable preempts are especially sound

 

I have played with some professional rubber players (never for money though :P ), e.g. the winner of the Dutch Master pairs competition last year. He likes heavy preempts, especially in rubber and would not hesitate on:

♠ x ♥ Kxx ♦ AKJxxxx ♣ Jx

to open 3♦! especially in 1st or 3rd seat and I would like to say you young players can learn something from that.

This only shows the importance of knowing partner's style of peempting.

[Trpltrbl]

PASS

 

Mike :lol:

[lbyer]

I would not bid 3♦ with this hand. I would agree with those who would open this hand 1 diamond. A weak 2 diamonds is second best.

 

My preference is to pre-empt with BAD hands - not good ones, and I like my partner to do the same.

[mikestar]

Even assuming partner isn't too strong for 3D, I believe pass is correct at either scoring. The hands are a miracle fit and you can't play for miracles. Imagine if partner's majors were interchanged: 5D is probably down off the top, never mind 6.

 

Your don't have enough trumps and have too much defense for 5D as a sacrifice, so there is no reason to bid.

[lbyer]

mikestar - if you read the earlier threads you would notice that 6 diamonds was a laydown. Do you think one should play in 3♦ when 6 diamonds is a laydown - without even the opportunity to explore??

 

I agree that Pass is the correct bid over 3♦; The initial 3♦ bid is not good - see my earlier post.

 

I remember reading about a hypothetical hand in a book by Reese. The hand consisted of all 13 diamonds and Reese's question was what's the best bid. I think he opted for four diamonds (tactical underbid) with the idea of moving up in slow increments - likely to end up in 6 or 7 diamonds doubled.

 

Although this was only a theoretical discussion - I think it brings out an interesting point about bidding distributional hands. Sometimes it is better to start low with good and distributional hands - ops may not fully understand the HCP vs distributional strength of the hand. At the same time partner is able to contribute to the final contract.

[Fluffy]

Pass and pass to me as well, 3NT may be the right bid sometime, not because you´ll make it, but because your opponnts will fail to bid and make 4♠ :P

[Trpltrbl]

N had

♠-

♥Kxx

♦AJ109xxx

♣Jxx

Another great hand for ZARpoints, we just open 1♦ and will get to game for sure and likely to slam. 6.2 ♦ is fairly good slam.

 

Mike :angry: