2/1 bid in SAYC

[dae]

Playing Standard American:

Partner bid 1 H, I bid 2 D.(showing 10+.) Partner jumped to 3 H. Is this wasting bidding space? I contend that my 2 D promises another bid, and he could have bid 2 H and described his hand with his next bid, as his 2 H would also be forcing, as I MUST make another call.

[EricK]

It's not wasting bidding space if it shows a hand, or some important feature of the hand, which couldn't be accurately shown at all by following the cheaper route, or would actually end up being shown at a higher level if the cheaper route were followed. One possible use for this sequence, for instance, would be to promise a solid heart suit.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

 

3H creates a game force, compare this to the seq.

 

1H - 2D

2H - 2NT

3H - ...

 

Now 3H could be passed.

 

As it is, 3H also showes a solid suit, setting trumps,

responder may still suggest NT (3NT) or diamonds (4D),

but any other bid agrees hearts and is a cue (5D / 6D

I will ignore).

 

So the jump does not waste space, it simplifies life.

 

With kind regards

Uwe Gebhardt

[vuroth]

At the core, I think that

 

1♥ - 2♦

3♥

 

and

 

1♥ - 2♦

2♥ - 2NT

4♥

 

Should mean different things. Sure, both are game forcing, but having 2 different ways to game force should show 2 different types of hands. Making redundant bids descriptive can only help communication with partner, right?

 

The above explanations seem reasonable to me as to specifics.

 

0.02

 

V