kfay Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 [hv=d=s&v=n&s=s10984hak9d82ck1063]133|100|Scoring: IMPP-(P)-P-(1♥)P-(2♥)-P-(P)?[/hv] Hand from the Juniors BBO tournament today on which I thought the mentors gave some bad advice. What do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewj Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 I would almost certainly pass I must admit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobowolf Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 [hv=d=s&v=n&s=s10984hak9d82ck1063]133|100|Scoring: IMPP-(P)-P-(1♥)P-(2♥)-P-(P)?[/hv] Hand from the Juniors BBO tournament today on which I thought the mentors gave some bad advice. What do you think? I'd bid 2♠, but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrei Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Pass Who says they have an 8-card fit, and even if they do, we could still be going for a number. Remember that partner, with the supposed "heart shortness" didn't bid over 2♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobowolf Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Pass Who says they have an 8-card fit, and even if they do, we could still be going for a number. Remember that partner, with the supposed "heart shortness" didn't bid over 2♥. Partner didn't know that 7 of your 10 points weren't with your RHO. I'll go out on a limb and say they have an 8-card fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Pass wtp? Bidding is huge downside, small upside, this should be trivial at imps with so much in hearts. Not only could they possibly have a 7 card fit (and surely not 9, at least on a hand where you would want to be bidding if partner didn't act over 2♥), but even if they have 8 you do not have a guaranteed fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 With only CK over opener, I expect all partner's tenaces/quacks to be under opener. So even half the deck won't be taking 7+ tricks. Then to avoid 3D on partner's choice to reopening double. Pass this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFA Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Balancing here is too wild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyB Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Pard couldn't act in third or over 2H when he has the presumed heart shortage. Pass in sleep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Pass. It is partners responsebilety to protect here. (In the pre-balance seat.) Tougher at MP's where +50 might suck, and opponents are more likely to bid again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmat Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 [hv=d=s&v=n&s=s10984hak9d82ck1063]133|100|Scoring: IMPP-(P)-P-(1♥)P-(2♥)-P-(P)?[/hv] Hand from the Juniors BBO tournament today on which I thought the mentors gave some bad advice. What do you think? I am playing a juniors tournament and i didn't open this ?!?!?!? (j/k) pass now. where is it, exactly, that we're trying to get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Hi, Pass. We are red.Partner is a passed hand, i.e. we have at best half of the pot, it is more likely we have less.We have AK in their suit.And for me not really relevant, but also a big factor:We are playing IMPs, which means, if we go in, and sincewe are red, we may trade -110 for -500 or more, but theprevious reason, would make balancing even at MP problematic. If you bid, it is double, this will at least ensure, thatyou play your best fit, maybe spades, but maybe clubs as well. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotShot Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 my feeling says "pass and lead 3 rounds of hearts" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfay Posted September 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Full hand [hv=d=n&v=n&n=s10984hak9d82ck1063&w=sa2hj10843dk75caj7&e=sq76hq72dqj63c984&s=skj53h65da1094cq52]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 South might have doubled 2♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 South has a painfully obvious double :( Did the mentors say N should bid 2♠ lol? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Pass. There is no game here. Any action could lead to a disaster. Most of my partnerships would duplicate this result. A double by the South hand into a live auction is very dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobowolf Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 South has a painfully obvious double :( Did the mentors say N should bid 2♠ lol? Looks more like a painful double to me, with a 10-count opposite a passed hand and with a virtually unlimited LHO (ok, he didn't open 2♣). North is the one who knows his partner has his fair share of the missing points. The 2♠ balance has some risk, and certainly isn't ideal, but I still like it. Though going for a number (even if that number's "only" 500) is a bigger disaster at IMPs than matchpoints, that danger is reduced by the opponents' being less likely to double a low-level contract at IMPs (no "matchpoint doubles" where they know they're getting a bad score if the contract makes, anyway). If the story of the hand were that south doubled with his 10-count and partner got his head handed to him in a 4-3 club fit at the three level, I wonder how many voters in an "assign the blame" poll would characterize the double as "obvious." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Hi, if someone should act, it is South, but Southknowes also #1 we are RED, playing IMPs#2 partner is a passed hand, i.e. the partnership has at most half of the pot I would pass. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobowolf Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Also worth noting that north, with the heart length, is better placed to know whether that length will suggest defending (with minor honors such as KJx, QJx, QTx that might be useless on offense) or justify competing (with either no wastage (xxx) or primary values that will be just as good on offense (Axx or even the actual holding of AKx).) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Full hand [hv=d=n&v=n&n=s10984hak9d82ck1063&w=sa2hj10843dk75caj7&e=sq76hq72dqj63c984&s=skj53h65da1094cq52]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv] Lose 2? Seems pretty tough to get to 4♠ and it's pretty convenient to have the ♠Q and ♣J in the slot. I'd take my +100 happily enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 What was the bad advice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmat Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 What was the bad advice? I believe they said that the balancing hand should pass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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