Pass this tko double?

[shevek]

[hv=d=e&v=n&s=skhat2dkt963caq92]133|100|Scoring: IMP

          (4♥) no

(no) X (no) ?

Do you bid? If you do, is it 4NT and pass partner's 5m?[/hv]

[pclayton]

I wouldn't pass. Slam is a certainty, and we are in the ballpark for 7.

 

AQxx x A8xx Kxxx is a minimum TOx, and slam is cold. Add the ♦Q and 7N is.

 

My plan is to start with 4N. Over 5m, I'll try 5♥, which hopefully gets 5♠. If pard started with diamonds, I'm bidding 7. If pard started with clubs, I think this is much tougher. If 5N is understood to be some kind of LTTC, then I'd try that. Otherwise, I will content myself with 6♣, although pard isn't barred from raising.

 

I realize that we may get some lousy breaks, but this is partially mitigated by pard playing it and taking away RHO's possible lightner x.

[Apollo81]

agree w/ Phil

[nige1]

[hv=d=e&v=n&s=skhat2dkt963caq92]133|100|Scoring: IMP

          (4♥) no

(no) X (no) ?

Do you bid? If you do, is it 4NT and pass partner's 5m?[/hv]

IMO 4N = 10, _P = 7.

In another thread, in a similar context, the consensus BBO view was that partner would automatically protect on a suitable 10-11 count. Admittedly the auction was subtly different because he had passed as dealer. You have a good hand but partner's double is predicated on you holding fair values. And bad breaks are to be expected, Hence, IMO, discretion dictates that you settle for a small slam unless partner shows enthusiasm.

[Guest Jlall]

Don't agree that Phil's example hand is a minimum t/o X, could certainly X with less here. Anyways, I would bid 4N planning on driving to slam also.