mike777 Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 ".....I completely agree that the way to go is 2-way game tries. I have to admit that I don't remember the last time I actually made a game try. I just bid game.The system we play is geared towards partner being comfortable with making game tries, and me being comfortable making slam tries. I use science for slam bidding only. Games are misdefended routinely, or are on an opening lead problem, that it pays to just close your eyes and bid them,in my opinion......" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoAnneM Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 I agree that too much bidding to arrive at a contract just tells the opponents how to defend the hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 I don't know if I agree with that - most of the time, the opponents are not listening, anyway. I will agree with the fact that many (most?) game contracts will make if the opponents are given a chance to misdefend. I made a ridiculous overbid in an ACBL game on BBO last night (just one?), and made my 3NT due to a favorable lie of the opponents. The contract had zero chance of making on the lie of the cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 I made a ridiculous overbid in an ACBL game on BBO last night (just one?), and made my 3NT due to a favorable lie of the opponents. A favorable lie of one's opponents tends to be far more useful than a favorable lie of one's opponents' cards. B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1303 Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 Certainly in club bridge I agree. In bridge of a decent standard there is some merit to stopping in 3 when it is right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 Sometimes it is right to blast, sometimes it is right to investigate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 Sometimes it is right to blast, sometimes it is right to investigate. You have been watching the political speeches too much. A lot of words, but nothing is said. I agree with the basic concept of quantitative bash game bidding, myself. The only real exception is that I occasionally toss out the new suit bid with trashy 5-5's, mostly to save the chance of -1 in 3M when a field option of 2M could be set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 Sometimes it is right to blast, sometimes it is right to investigate. You have been watching the political speeches too much. A lot of words, but nothing is said. A lot of words? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianshark Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 I thought it was quite succinct and got the point across pretty well, myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 Sometimes it is right to blast, sometimes it is right to investigate. You have been watching the political speeches too much. A lot of words, but nothing is said. A lot of words? Nothing said?? :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 Sometimes it is right to blast, sometimes it is right to investigate. You have been watching the political speeches too much. A lot of words, but nothing is said. Ouch. From a lawyer!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobowolf Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 Ouch. From a lawyer!!! Ouch. From a lawyer!!! You know what Shakespeare said... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bid_em_up Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 Ouch. From a lawyer!!! Ouch. From a lawyer!!! You know what Shakespeare said... A rose by any other name? :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 Yeah, I kinda stepped in my own doodie there! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1eyedjack Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 I think that whether a game try mechanism is merited depends in no small part on the range of partner's expressed values. But I suppose you can turn that on its head and say that partner's expressed values should be narrowly defined so as to eliminate the requirement of a game try? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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