gwnn Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 AxxKTxxAKQxxx 1♣-p-1♠-2♥ The person holding this hand now bid a bad bid of 3♦. What would you need to change in this hand to actually be a 3♦ bid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 I don't think 3♦ is so bad. Surely an overbid but if not playing G/B2NT, 3♣ would be an underbid. Make the hand just slightly better and I think I would bid 3♦. One extra club i.o. a heart, the jack of clubs, or replace ♦K with the ace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 A high reverse like this is 100% GF. You need a very big hand to make a high reverse with xx in the opps suit. AxxATxxAKQJTx This is not really enough since partner will need magic in D to make game. AxxAxxAKQJTxx Even with this monster hand (enough to bid 3D) Im not sure that game will make more than 50%. At Imps you cannot afford to miss game but at MP you dont need to force to game if you feel that game are less than 50%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 A high reverse like this is 100% GF. You need a very big hand to make a high reverse with xx in the opps suit. AxxATxxAKQJTx This is not really enough since partner will need magic in D to make game. Or a heart stopper? In this auction you have no room. You either force to game or you make a serious underbid. Requiring a hand where game is more than 50% even if partner has a misfitting minimum isn't right. I think the actual hand is very close to 3D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 I don't think 3D is game forcing (in particular, I think I can pass 4C from partner).I certainly don't think it shows "Axx" it definitely shows a diamond suit. I agree that this hand isn't far short. Make the DK the ace and give me the C10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 In this auction you have no room. You either force to game or you make a serious underbid. Requiring a hand where game is more than 50% even if partner has a misfitting minimum isn't right. I think the actual hand is very close to 3D. If you play good bad or if X followed by 3C is possible (not playing support double) then the strong 3C isnt a big underbid. At MP it doesnt make sense to GF and expect to be minus more than 50%. There is no doubt in my mind that with AxxATxxAKQJTx with the bidding 1C-----(P)-------1S----------(2H)3C (str)---all passAnd more than 50% of the times ill be happy to not be in game and it wouldnt surprised me that much to see 3C go down. I dont think its likely partner got a H stopper but if hes got a soft one (K or Q) i doubt RHO will give ur our 9th trick by leading the suit. 3D with AxxKTxxAKQxxx is just plain bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 Another King, ... or another diamond(and the Ace of spades being the Aceof diamonds would feel me better in thiscase). With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 It was only a mild overbid, could be right some days. Change the diamond king into the ace and 3♦ is totally obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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