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strong club defenses using 2H multi


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I've seen a lot of ambiguous preemptive methods over a strong club, things like suction or psycho suction or DONT. Since everyone (or at least the regulators) seems to whine about how hard 2 non-forcing multi is to defend (in contrast to forcing methods like suction or naturalish methods like DONT), have people included this multi bid as part of their defense to a strong club? If so, what do you use the rest of the defensive overcalls for, to go well with this?

 

What about similar ideas that instead of 50-50 are 2-out-of-3? Something like

 

2 = 2 suits from clubs/diamonds/hearts

 

You are actually even more likely to be able to pass (than a 50-50 bid like multi) since now there's an a priori 2/3 chance that partner holds his suit bid.

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Just for fun we used to play this many years ago:

(1C) 2C = weak in next higher suit, or 5/5 with this suit and 2 above, or 4441 with a singleton in the bid suit.

 

Nowhere near as effective as canape overcalls, however.

Just for fun we used to play this many years ago:

 

2-level jump overcalls = weak in the suit bid, or a 3-suiter short in the suit bid, or a specific 2-suiter not including the suit bid (I can't remember how you defined the 2 suits any more)

 

We still sometimes play 2-level jumps as either weak and natural or a 3-suiter excluding the suit, but we pick our opponents carefully.

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