jillybean Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Dealer: South Vul: None Scoring: IMP ♠ 4 ♥ A3 ♦ KJ84 ♣ 987542 West North East South - - - Pass Pass 1♠ 2♥ Youre south and pass in 1st pos, what do you do when it gets back to you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 I pass. I don't have quite enough to make a negative double and would worry if partner had to rebid 2♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonottawa Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 I double. I have just enough to make a negative double. I'm not too worried if partner bids 2 Spades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 I double. I am not estatic with double, due to poor fit for spades, and the value i have "wasted" in hearts. On the other hand, if I pass and my LHO raises to 3♥ we can be shut out of the auction. IF partner rebids 2♠ over my double, i will, of course pass and wish I had passed this last round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Pass. I don't mind defending 2♥ if pard has a little length. Forcing to the 3 level seems dubious, especially with a 3rd hand CHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickRW Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 I'm not ecstatic about either dbl or pass. Seems close to me. Swap the ♣9 and ♥A and I think I'd definitely dbl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Pass. Not enough for a sputnik double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Tough hand. If double and bid is weak (6-9 or so) then perhaps you can double and convert 2♠ to 3♣. I usually play negative free bids and so 3♣ over 2♠ would be forcing having started with a double. Passing and double are both awkward. Passing is awkward as it will be hard for partner to imagine we have this much if we pass. It also may be far from clear what is best if we pass and partner bids or doubles. Doubling is awkward as depending on your agreements you may have to live with partner's 2♠ and even if you can correct to 3♣ it may be no bargain with a nine-high suit. Usually I am favour of showing some useful values with a double but here I think I pass and hope to make a sensible bid if partner bids on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Hi, Pass, Partner is still alive. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbforster Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 We're a passed hand, so we can double and bid clubs over spades if we want. I'm a passer though. Encouraging partner to bid 3♠ over X-(3♥) isn't really ideal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Enough shape and enogh values to make a neg X. The chance i get a plus score at 2H isnt good enough to my taste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 I would also double, close for the reasons mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcphee Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Dble, I am not prepared to give up our possible part score. Passing now will result in partner passing most likely. Also possible is LHO will raise H in which case we are out of the auction forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 This looks like just enough for me to make a negX, but if PD chooses to pass, I won't criticize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Pass, but close. The bidding may not be over just yet. I have some defense vs 3h or 4h. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Good problem. Double invites 2♠ and there is zero safety in running to 3♣ thereafter... opener may well be 6331 or such, if he bids 2♠, yet he may also be 5323, as an example. So you are guessing if you double, unless he does something that pleasantly surprises us, such as bidding a minor :blink: Pass gets us by this round, but now we have a different problem if he reopens with a double... how can we show a hand this useful? Today, I guess to pass. This may well end the auction, and, if it does, it rates to be a decent score for us. If it doesn't, I may still land on my feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Here is another viewpoint from an email: "since we aren’t vulnerable, and thus are a bit less concerned about missing a game our way, I’m beginning to think that passing in the first place is probably the best action. Now, if partner rebids 2S, we can count on him to have at least six of them and we are comfortable letting him play there. Also, if he’s opened really light in 3rd hole and/or has a bunch of hearts, we can stay out of trouble and play defense, and finally if partner has a reasonable opener and some cards in the minors he’ll reopen with a double and we’ll know it’s right to compete in clubs." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 I definitely pass, if this gets passed out they are in an 8 card or worse fit, and double lets me usually guess betwen 2♠ in the 5-1 or 3♣ in the 6-1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Dealer: South Vul: None Scoring: IMP ♠ 4 ♥ A3 ♦ KJ84 ♣ 987542 West North East South - - - Pass Pass 1♠ 2♥ Youre south and pass in 1st pos, what do you do when it gets back to you? JB may we please have the full deal. People are asking me what it was. TY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted August 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 found it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted August 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 [hv=d=s&v=n&n=skq652h8dt62cakt6&w=s93hqt754dq93cqj3&e=sajt87hkj962da75c&s=s4ha3dkj84c987542]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv] West North East South - - - Pass Pass 1♠ 2♥ Pass 3♥ Pass 4♥ Pass Pass Pass http://online.bridgebase.com/myhands/hands...rname=jillybean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navit Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 I think this is an obvious pass. It might be a double with the ace of hearts placed in some other suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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