mike777 Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 AJ73....A875.....AT32.....6 IMPS UNFAV VUL. 1D=1S? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 2♠?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyDluxe Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 2♠... why would I lie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effervesce Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 2♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 2♠. Good hand again for an unbalanced diamond approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 2♠. I prefer to have one more HCP in playing strength to jump to the 3 level with this distribution or if my stiff was a void I'd jump. .. neilkaz .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcLight Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 This seems very close to a 3♠ bid because of the 3 aces and stiff. The Trump jack could be wasted (if pard has KQxxx in spades) , or very valuable if pard has KTxx in spades. It really comes down to if pard has wasted values in clubs, and I don't know of any way to find out about that. If you bid 2♠ pard will pass with a 9/10 point handKTxx QJx Kxx xxx or this Kxxxx KQx xx xxx Using Deal Master pro - 100 deals - giving pard 6-10 HCP and 4-5 spades 4S is 57%.Admitedly the double dummy analyzer might not be exact, but it seems that you want to be in games taht are even money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 2S. You can of course argue, that the control richnessof the hand, makes it reasonable to treat the hand as 6 loosers instead of 7. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianshark Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 2 is enough. 3 should be a really good hand because people will respond on flat 4 counts with 4 card Majors these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dicklont Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 I voted 3♠ because the singleton clubs makes the hand stronger than a minimum. I remember Walddk stated some time ago that 4-4-4-1 hands are not as strong as they seem. How about this 4-4-4-1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldman5757 Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 2♠. 4-4-4-1 hands don't play that well, and if P can't make some sort of game try over 2♠ very unlikely we've missed anything. B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 I need a little more for 3S, even when playing that 3S shows short clubs like I do with cherdano. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 2♠. If partner doesn't make a try, how good can game be? If partner bids 2NT, I have an easy 4♣ call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 two I see you left it ambiguous as 2♠ or 2♥ hehe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 2♠. If partner doesn't make a try, how good can game be? Close to 100 % (KQxxx QJx xx xxx). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 Ok fair enough. But certainly it's not something I'm going to cater for in my bidding. I understand my statement challenged a construction, but that was not the intent. I'm not going to bother to come up with a construction of where the 3-level isn't safe (easy enough to find hands where 2♠ goes down). I still think that our hand is better described by 2♠ and that the chance we miss game is much, much smaller than the chance we get overboard. On top of that, if I make any stronger call we run the risk of partner taking us seriously and overreaching to slam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y66 Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 3S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 2♠, not close to 3♠ for me. 7-loser hand, no source of tricks. Of course the aces are good, but they don't take that many tricks.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 2♠. Make it 4=3=5=1, all else the same, and it is 3♠, but 4441s generally don't pull the same weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 a 10 spot or Q away from a jump With AJ10x Axxx, Axxx, x or AQxx, Axxx, Axxx, x I jump as aces are grossly undervalued in 4321 point count but a 7-loser hand is still not a jump. Make it a 6-loser hand and now I like the jump. I see it as that close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Depends on my system. If I play weak NT or unbalanced 1♦, easy 2♠. If I play "SAYC"-ish, I would bid 3♠ with these prime cards. After all, I might be bidding 2♠ on some balanced 12-count. The real question is, what does "WBC-1" mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted August 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Depends on my system. If I play weak NT or unbalanced 1♦, easy 2♠. If I play "SAYC"-ish, I would bid 3♠ with these prime cards. After all, I might be bidding 2♠ on some balanced 12-count. Feel free to assume wk nt, eastern scientific or strong nt 2/1. The real question is, what does "WBC-1" mean? WBC means the World Bridge Championships. This hand is from the 2007 Semifinals of the Bermuda Bowl and Venice Cup. Board 34. Will post results later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted August 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 Zia rebid 2s and Michael made five. Commentators said 2s is normal standard auction. Three pairs in Bermuda Bowl played a partial. Muller had a gadget 2nt rebid here and De Wijs bid and made 4. 10 imps to Netherlands. Three pairs in Venice Cup reached and made game. 9652....KJ9....K8.....K853 AJ73.....A875....AT32.....6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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