MickyB Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 [hv=d=s&v=b&s=sq97haqt73dk74cq2]133|100|Scoring: MP1♥ (P)3♥(P) 1♥ shows 5, 3♥ shows a four-card LR Thoughts?[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1303 Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 If I'm me, I bid 4H. I allow points for good declarer play. If I'm you, I pass and hope I don't get doubled!! On a more serious note, whether or not I bid 4 depends greatly on my table presence. If this at a tuppence ha'penny club game with LOLs on both sides etc, I will bid 4 every single time. If I'm playing against FG in the (instert high level pairs competition here) I would pass this immediately. I guess my methods might come into play here as well. If I usually open light (and partner is aware of this) then 3H should be full strength, and vice versa. If partner has an ability to make a mixed raise (e.g. Bergen) then this may influence matters as well. Whether or not I'm playing weak/strong NT also affects things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 At MP this is a pass and it's not close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinidad Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 On a more serious note, whether or not I bid 4 depends greatly on my table presence. If this at a tuppence ha'penny club game with LOLs on both sides etc, I will bid 4 every single time. If I'm playing against FG in the (instert high level pairs competition here) I would pass this immediately.I would do it the other way around. Against LOL's, I want to go with the field and pass. I will get a top if I get a trick more than anyone else, whether that is for 170 vs 140 for the rest or for 140 vs -50 for the rest. I will definitely not bid 4♥ and risking an average for -50 in 4♥ when the field is -50 in 3♥. Againt FG, I 'know' that I will have a bad board anyway. If I follow the field, I am sure to get a trick less than the rest and I will have a bottom. I might bid 4♥, I am likely going to get a bottom too, but there is a chance that I can take 10 tricks (when there are 11 available) and my 420 will beat all the 200's. Other than that, I agree with Justin that this is a clear pass and not even close. Rik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobowolf Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 Agree with the pass-not-close. Using losing trick count to evaluate the hand suggests that as far as playing strength goes, there's nothing extra as an opener (and in fact, it's on the poor side). Unsupported minor honors in the short suits aren't helping it. Q: What's the difference between MPs and IMPs? A: Sometimes 170 is good at MPs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachy Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 Pass. This looks like a non-problem, to me. Unless your 1-openings start at 10HCP, this is a minimum hand, nothing to add. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyB Posted August 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 At MP this is a pass and it's not close. Ok, cool. I have a habit of persuading myself I've done the wrong thing/had a close decision after whatever I've done hasn't worked out. Pard's hand is AK Jxxx xxx Kxxx (fairly pipless), is missing a decent game here just one-of-those-things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 Pard's hand is AK Jxxx xxx Kxxx (fairly pipless), is missing a decent game here just one-of-those-things? Yes. Every HCP in your hands is working, and partner had 4 clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 [hv=d=s&v=b&s=sq97haqt73dk74cq2]133|100|Scoring: MP1♥ (P)3♥(P) 1♥ shows 5, 3♥ shows a four-card LR Thoughts?[/hv] if limit raise shows 12-13 support pts...8 loser hand type I will rebid 3nt(choice of games).If less I pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 Pass. Playing IMPs I would pass as well, but I thinkI would not be very happy with my decision. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 At MP this is a pass and it's not close. Ok, cool. I have a habit of persuading myself I've done the wrong thing/had a close decision after whatever I've done hasn't worked out. Pard's hand is AK Jxxx xxx Kxxx (fairly pipless), is missing a decent game here just one-of-those-things? Yes. AK oppossite Qxx is just one example why the hand fits very well, Kxxx oppossite Qx another. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catatonic Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 pass in sleep ; going off in 3 is more likely than making 4 imho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 Even with my light opening style, this is a clearcut pass.It's 7.5 losers - not close to accepting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbodell Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 I bid game way too much in these situations and play MP too much like IMP. That said, even for me, I'd pass this one in an instant. A 7 ltc 5332 with 3 Q including a Qx and only average spots is not worth an accept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 Pass WTP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 What's the problem? The problem is that you are playing in a part score when game is rather good. Pass probably is percentage on the auction given. It helps if Responder can show a limit raise at a lower level, giving Opener room to make a game try. For the record, 116 pairs bid game, 88 stopped in part score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bid_em_up Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 Pard's hand is AK Jxxx xxx Kxxx (fairly pipless), is missing a decent game here just one-of-those-things? This hand is not a limit raise, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 For the record, 116 pairs bid game, 88 stopped in part score. Sounds like Brighton. I think the answer to the question depends on too many things we don't know, like our opening style and our invite style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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