brianshark Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 [hv=d=e&v=b&n=sk86h852d5caq7542&s=saqt73hdaqt86ck83]133|200|Scoring: MPThis is the first board of a 2-session Pairs competition. Auction:P - 1♠ - 2♥ - 3♣3♥ - 4♥ - P - 4♠P - 5♦ - P - 6♠P - P - P Lead: ♥A[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 Not quite sure what I'm missing. Can't I just play: 1. ruff2. ♠A3. ♠K (seeing if they are 4-1 onside), if so: 4a. Draw trumps, run clubs, take 12 tricks (if spades are 4-1 and clubs are 4-0, then I'm off). 4b. Draw trumps, play clubs and take the free diamond finesse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 If RHO drops the ♠9 on the A, I am taking the spade finesse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceeb Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 If RHO drops the ♠9 on the A, I am taking the spade finesse.Gaining if it's a singleton and the clubs break; losing against ♠J9(x). ♠A, K succeeds against 4-1 onside; ♠A, Q against either 4-1 if the ♦ finesse works. Seems like a tossup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonottawa Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 I don't think it's a toss-up at all. Bidding 3♥ with a stiff Spade is very unlikely/unusual, albeit not impossible. After testing Spades, if they're 3-2 you ruff a Diamond and make 7 (assuming 3-1 Clubs.) It is pairs, after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceeb Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 You're right -- it's certainly not a tossup. I forgot that there was bidding. RHO can hardly have both a singleton spade and the diamond king, so ♠A,Q makes no sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianshark Posted August 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 LHO held ♠J9xx ♥AKJxxx ♦xx ♣x If you Cash the A and K of ♠s, RHO then shows out. If you then attack ♣s, LHO will ruff in on the 3rd round killing the entry to the ♣s. I think the only way to make is to cash the AQ of ♠s. If the ♠s break the you can draw the last trump, cash ♣s and take a ♦ finesse for the 13th. On this deal, when they don't break and you need to attack ♣s and when LHO ruffs on the 3rd round, and exits a ♥ or whatever, you can draw trump and have to take the ♦ hook for the 12th trick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 LHO held ♠J9xx ♥AKJxxx ♦xx ♣x If you Cash the A and K of ♠s, RHO then shows out. If you then attack ♣s, LHO will ruff in on the 3rd round killing the entry to the ♣s. I think the only way to make is to cash the AQ of ♠s. If the ♠s break the you can draw the last trump, cash ♣s and take a ♦ finesse for the 13th. On this deal, when they don't break and you need to attack ♣s and when LHO ruffs on the 3rd round, and exits a ♥ or whatever, you can draw trump and have to take the ♦ hook for the 12th trick. Not sure why I should divine to guard for LHO having 4 trumps when he is the overcaller. This is especially the case at MPs when if RHO has the 4 trumps, making the extra trick may be crucial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianshark Posted August 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 Right. There was some discussion between me and a few guys who were trying to figure out the best line to safely make 6S (I don't think we need to play for an overtrick necessarily - it's an iffy slam, the field probably won't be in it, and if they are in slam, 6C is superior but 6S > 6C+1). Both lines make if trumps are 3-2, but the AK line makes an easy overtrick. The AQ line works for either 4-1 break if the ♦K is onside. The AK line works independent of the ♦K's position but requires the 4-1 break to be onside. The bidding suggests the AK line to be the better chance. I guess making this slam requires sub-optimal play after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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