Ece and Steve please do not leave BBO

[Rado]

Hi all friends,

Today I received disapponting news that my friends Ece (ecepal) and Steve (2over1, topflight) are going to leave BBO. I wish we all the fans of our lovely game of bridge might try to convince them to stay with us.

 

Ece and Steve please do not leave BBO we need you!!!!!!!!!

 

Rado

[Jangvik]

I agree with Rado.

 

ECE and Steve has contributed much to bbo. Topflights tournments have been very entertaining and learning to kibb.

Steve has been very fun to get to learn and when he is playing it is party to kibb.

 

Steve And Ece, pls stay.

[Kitta]

Though I am an Novice here at BBO, I have taken great pleasure in kind "welcome"-greetings & the effort you put into the promotion of bridge. I was particularly glad of the Junior TopFlight coming on, and so were many of the international Junior players I know - from several countries.

 

You know Kipling's "If" ? 'Bow' your head, but 'rise' again.

Please, reconsider!

 

Yours Kitta

[luis]

Well If it helps I think that Ece and Steve do a wonderful job.

 

If what you need is help or support I'll be happy to help.

 

Luis

[bambi1]

What a shame to hear this news :( Unfortunately I can relate to your decision :lol:

 

Good TDs are few and far between. You leave many friends and admirers behind. Best of luck to you both in your future endeavors.

[icey]

Ece and Steve! You have been doing a wonderful job and planning on starting the most important job, work with and for the juniors! It is not done yet, pls stay and continue! Please ask for help and assistance, I am sure that many of us will be willing, able and wanting to help and support you!

Raija

[spwdo]

hi ece/steve

 

 

as a close friend im not going to ask u to reconsider /change your minds because i believe i have to respect your desision in wahtever u decide , however i can share my sadness and my unbelieve that this had to come sofar, i think some problems have to be kept small when they still are small and be dealt with when there still is a possiblity to work them out/preventing from exceeding.

 

I expressed myslef claerly about the Jr Flight thing and will provide the link in here in case someone missed it

http://bridgebase.lunarpages.com/~bridge2/...showtopic=2649#

 

 

 

is a pleasure knowing both of u

 

marc

[aisha759]

Both Ece and Steve have worked very hard on BBO, each in their own way.... They are very dear friends of mine, and I am very sad to see them go... All their friends are still pulling together to try to persuade them against it; alas, our help is not enough.. Hopefully we can be successful in making it worth their while to stay on..

 

Aisha

[reisig]

Ece and Steve are a very much need team for BBO members. They do everything possble to make BBO the best place to enjoy bridge. From tourney to a program for Juniors (which I fully support). I would hate to see them leave simply because "someone" can't seem to be stopped from making their lives miserable.

If there were something possible for me to do - to keep them here...I'm ready!!!

Reisig (Rich Reisig)

[uday]

Pls., lets not make this a discussion of why E is choosing to leave, and why S. is following suit. We can't have any prior disputes spill over into this forum. We don't have the disk space, if nothing else :(

 

 

If you want E/S to stay, msg them or email them and say so :lol:

[aisha759]

Oh dear! Sorry thought Forum was open for opinions and thoughts... they have recieved private messages, this was meant to be public.. :(

[luis]

Pls., lets not make this a discussion of why E is choosing to leave, and why S. is following suit. We can't have any prior disputes spill over into this forum. We don't have the disk space, if nothing else :(

 

 

If you want E/S to stay, msg them or email them and say so :lol:

Are you serious about disk space or is there some problem between BBO and Steve/Ece? Each post is in average 1K, I think you can afford up to a thousand posts about this subject before having a real complaint.

 

I really don't have a clue about what the problem is with Steve/Ece so any private message will be welcome.

 

Luis

[inquiry]

Oh dear! Sorry thought Forum was open for opinions and thoughts... they have recieved private messages, this was meant to be public..   :(

I think you misunderstood uday.

 

He didn't say you couldn't express the desire for them not to leave, or to come back if they have official left at this time. Please feel free to do continue to do so.. Here I will do so myself,

 

Steve, Ece, my dear friends, please reconsider your decision.

 

With that taken care of, what uday said was not to make THIS THREAD a discussion of WHY they left. In fact, I have deleted post by some people and edit post by another who raised the WHY question long before UDAY's reply above. I would have edited the comments out of reisigs post as well, but uday;s response has handled it imho.

 

There are reasons for their departure, and what Uday was suggesting, is that a discussion of those reasons in a public forum like this would be inappropriate in his views. I am certain there are many, many who would be willing to try to work out a solution, and help make it a lasting one. But trust me, nothing will be served by discussing it here in this forum. The reason is fairly clear from reisigs message, becasue it will result in people picking sides, mentioning players by name or nicknames... etc. And in addition, it would not be productive and the simply opening such a discussion would not bring ece or steve back. If you want to help, message them privately on this site or at their regular email. That seems a reasonable approach to me. Or if you are a certain person, you could make your message public here and ask Ece not to leave, too. That would be a very nice, magnanimous gesture on your part to help out one of your old friends.

 

Ben

[aisha759]

Thank you Ben for clearing this misunderstanding... why? should not be discussed, but expressing feelings of sadness at seing Ece and Steve leave are allowed..

I apologize, i missed the posts which asked the reasons, i had only read the other ones. (maybe you had already edited)..

 

Regards,

Aisha

[uday]

I was joking about the disk space ,sorry :(

[spwdo]

hosted today a teammatch int.juniors (bulgarian) vs stars&friends(all hoped that this maybe woud make u reconsider) , hope steve and ece will return some time to read this , and can say with Jr flight login i got a zillion supports, question, asking me for a solution(wich i have not) about thier departure, reading thru some of the profiles i see some refusing to play other tournaments till topflight return, whatever u decide stve/ece, know that massive support is behind you

 

 

 

marc Jr Flight/spwdo

[ahuzobu]

please ece & steve try to reevaluate your decision...

 

With the ups and downs we have in life same happens everywhere we are active.

People always feel remorse for the things they hvnt done.

Whatever your decision: may it bring you luck through out your lives!!

 

Take care

We love you life on BBO wont be the same without you.

 

Ahu

[MesSer]

Words can't express the feeling to logon and not being able to send an oink or moo message to Steve. Unfortunantly I didn't have the pleasure of meeting ece, but, if he is even close to being as nice and friendly as Steve is, it's with big grief I bid thee farwell.

 

I'm sad that it all had to come to this, I will really miss you during my online time at BBO. I sincerely do hope that you will be able to work this all out and return to BBO. Even if that might not be possible, I still hope for it.

 

Until then, moo and oink my friend!

[keylime]

A sad, melancholy day for BBO - one that tears at the moral conscience of the game itself. It is self-evident to me that there are factors in play that don't want to be revealed ...

 

(uday: possible flamebait erased. No more, or i shut this thread down.).

 

.....I am bitterly heartbroken over this development. ....

(uday: again )

 

 

 

As the great statesman Churchill eloquently stated before the Battle of Britain on 18 June 1940:

 

"What General Weygand called the Battle of France is over. I expect that the Battle of Britain is about to begin. Upon this battle depends the survival of Christian civilization. Upon it depends our own British life, and the long continuity of our institutions and our Empire. The whole fury and might of the enemy must very soon be turned on us.

 

Hitler knows that he will have to break us in this Island or lose the war. If we can stand up to him, all Europe may be free and the life of the world may move forward into broad, sunlit uplands. But if we fail, then the whole world, including the United States, including all that we have known and cared for, will sink into the abyss of a new Dark Age made more sinister, and perhaps more protracted, by the lights of perverted science.

 

Let us therefore brace ourselves to our duties, and so bear ourselves that if the British Empire and its Commonwealth last for a thousand years, men will still say, 'This was their finest hour.' "

[uday]

Gang

 

 

I really don't want to see any derogatory or obnoxious references, no matter how oblique you think they are.

 

if you think it sucks that these guys are bailing, say so. If you think it is great, best to keep it to yourself. If you think it appropriate to extrude venom upon those you believe responsible, pls think again.

 

monitoring forums where loose fingers are sliding all over keyboards is not much fun, and I would much rather be with my source code.

 

 

 

uday

[mishovnbg]

 

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Hi all friends!

 

 

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I respect all people who sacrifice their free time to do BBO better place to enjoy our beloved Bridge. Steve and Ece, despite problems, show must go on, if people like you, like me :rolleyes: . You can't do anything without be with somebody in confrontation and this is the beauty of our world, else will be regress. Let leave to all people to decide result of our job, not to particular person, despite how important is he/she. If people don't like your way and your club, they will just leave it, something I didn't notice. If they do, you can give up of course, because will be clear that someting is not ok. But for now your club have a lot of friends and growing popularity and I can't see important reason to leave people who like you so much.

 

 

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Misho

[hallway]

There I was away fighting a couple of wars on my own home front !! In the BIL it is a constant battle with those who would RUIN everything for everyone given half a chance.

 

and now this !

 

ECE - you are the BIL's Official yellow - we NEED you. If you go I will have plague others to do translations for me !!

 

STEVE - you have been an Honorary member of the BIL from day one - we have delved into the mysteries of lin files together - you are the guy who told me to " HANG TOUGH - don't let them get to you " come on Lad if this Aged Void can still be here 7 months down the track (admittedly by the skin of my teeth - lol ) you too can Hang Tough .

 

Your Junior Flight initiative MUST NOT flounder - those youngsters are the future of this game you both love so much . Fight for them.

 

I am (I hope) slowly growing a thick skin , in the BIL the detractors come and go (the hassle is they keep replicating or is that cloning - aargh!! )

 

P L E A S E S T A Y !!!

[inquiry]

I received a request from Ecepal and 2over1 to post the following message from them to their multitude of friends in the BridgeBase Online Forum Community. It is with heavy heart I do so, as this clearly is a statement of their depature from the BBO community. This is a great loss to us all.

 

I post the letter in its entirety, without edits. In doing so, I remind people of Uday's admonition and specficially the warning about acceptable content to be posted in this thread and warning against Flamebait. And as I do so, it is also with full knowledge that this letter skates very close to, and maybe over the edge of even my own request that the question of "why" they left should not become a topic for discussion in this public forum. However, I think ece and steve did not spell out specifically the details of their departure, and they made it clear that the final decision by them to leave was theirs and theirs alone (that is, no truth to rumor they were thrown out or forced out).

 

And finally, to Ece and Steve, one more plea (but not final) from me, please reconsider your decision.

 

Hi Ben,

 

i wish there was a solution to all these but it is deadlock.i do aprreciate

your efforts, but dear Ben, I have only one thing that is my "pride and honour" that noone can take away from me.

 

I tears my heart apart hearing Steve and so many friends on the phone crying and going all these emotions.I have tried to come up the terms of giving up the aplogy, but that would not be me and suddenly it shone on to me we are not the one who lost here. I am having messages from people i have never even heard of...my phones never stopped still ringing and my mail acount is full my fingers are hurting trying to reply, this tells me something Steve and I made a great impact on BBO's good people and as your word become "beloved" due to our special attitude and charisma .that makes me very proud and happy too and it makes me sad as well that we have caused sadness for our dear friends.

but this is not the end but beginning we have good friends all around world and they have one right here on their heart.That is something one can never ask more having a solid place in peoples heart))

 

I f i am gonna cry another 3 days for my friends so be it they are worth it for me...

Ben please post this on the forum for our friends to read and be happy for us, and accept this as our farwell . we shall meet someday maybe in different grounds but as the same honest and true friends.. until then farewell all our true friends

we love you and we wil miss you

ecepal & steve(2over1=topflight)

 

[JAPIE2]

HI Steve and Ece,

 

I hope we all can change youre mind about this if you leave BBO is not the same without you we are really going to mis you.. i am going to mis you we are all friends here please remember that we are all friends so i hope we can all change youre mind with all the message we are all wrighting for you....STEVE ECE you must stay please stay

 

best Regards,

 

Jaap

 

;) to you

[tritri]

;)

 

Obviously I have already expressed privately that now I write public.

I have already post participation on forum of Italians, and here I would want not only to ask to Ece, that I estimate very much, to rethink to the taken decision, but I would want that all we considered that the good people is leaving BBO, while is given highly of the powers to that it arrives only thinking next to their succeeded one and their power, to which dont gives a damn of the others. Sure this was not the aim of persons like Booze that not want being more yellow, and today Ecepal even leaves BBO. Perhaps it will be the case to see again some things you do not believe?

 

Elena (TriTri)

 

Excuse me always for the my bad English