mike777 Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 1d=2c3nt? What is the standard meaning of 3nt in 2/1? Is there one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantumcat Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 A gambling 3NT with an opening hand. Qx Jx AKQJxxx xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 No, certainly not. The simple reason: There is no standard meaning of 2C,is it GF, forcing to the 4 level only, or could responder signof in 3C. Additionnaly there is no standard meaning of openers 2NT rebid either. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 I don't think there's a standard meaning for it in 2/1, it's up to what you agree with partner. Though if I had to assume a meaning with a pick-up (presuming 2C is GF) I'd say 2NT rebid is weak NT and 3NT is 18-19 with something like 4-4-3-2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bid_em_up Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 1d=2c3nt? What is the standard meaning of 3nt in 2/1? Is there one? 2N rebid is either 12/14 or 18/19, and the 3N rebid is 15-17 unbalanced, most likely with a stiff club (15-17 balanced would have opened 1N). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted July 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 1d=2c3nt? What is the standard meaning of 3nt in 2/1? Is there one? 2N rebid is either 12/14 or 18/19, and the 3N rebid is 15-17 unbalanced, most likely with a stiff club (15-17 balanced would have opened 1N). ty for responses but it seems many play 3nt here as alot of different things here as standard. Why not rebid your second suit with a stiff club and 15-17 hcp? I do not think a "standard 2/1" 2C denies a 4 card major so I wonder why so many would jump rebid 3nt with one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 4=4=4=1 with 15-17 hcp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachy Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 I don't know what standard is, but I THOUGHT standard in 2/1 was that 2NT is EITHER minimum OR 18+ (in which case opener bids again over raise to 3NT) and 3NT is 15-17 with a hand unsuited for 1NT opening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTired Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 I don't know what standard is, but I THOUGHT standard in 2/1 was that 2NT is EITHER minimum OR 18+ (in which case opener bids again over raise to 3NT) and 3NT is 15-17 with a hand unsuited for 1NT opening. me 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 4=4=4=1 with 15-17 hcp. Agreed, although many don't play it this way from my unfortunate experiences with pickups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 4=4=4=1 with 15-17 hcp. Agreed, although many don't play it this way from my unfortunate experiences with pickups. Lol, I was actually joking. Given that in "standard 2/1", it is already unclear whether 2♣ is forcing to game, it seems rather futile to try to answer the question of the original thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y66 Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 In Washington Standard (Steve Robinson), 1D 2C : 3N shows a 15-17 HCP hand that could not open 1N. In Modern American Bidding (Eric Kokish and Beverly Kraft), 1D 2C : 3N shows precisely 4=4=3=2 shape, 18-19 HCP [then 4♣, 4NT, 5NT natural, 4♦ and 4♥ transfers, 4♠ ace-asking]. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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