extras Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 Vul: they are, you're not. W: J8 Q974 2 KQJ642E: AK643 AJ AKJ3 A7 Methods are 2/1. Please assume that E opens 2C in fourth seat. Any thoughts ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 Vul: they are, you're not. W: J8 Q974 2 KQJ642E: AK643 AJ AKJ3 A7 Methods are 2/1. Please assume that E opens 2C in fourth seat. Any thoughts ? IF forced to open 2c then: 2c=3c3s=4c4d!=4s!4nt!=6c!p 2c=strong 4 loser hand with longmajor or 3 loser hand with long minor.3c=excellent long clubs, top honors, max pass, rare bid.3s=natural4c=natural, maybe slammish, note went past 3nt for some reason....4d=rkc for clubs4s=1-44nt=queen of trump ask6c=Q of C, deny outside K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 If playing positive responses to 2♣, I think one could have the auction 2♣-3♣-3♠-4♣-4N-5♦-5♥-6♣-7♣ I think it would be more common to end in 6♣ though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted July 27, 2008 Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 2c=3c3s=4c4d! 4d=rkc for clubsWhat would opener do over 4♣ with AKQ64 AK AKJ103 7 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted July 27, 2008 Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 2c=3c3s=4c4d! 4d=rkc for clubsWhat would opener do over 4♣ with AKQ64 AK AKJ103 7 ? One thing is for sure I cannot bid 4d as natural....given that this problem has never come up in 35 years...but bidding 4d as rkc has come up.....I can live with it.....:) My best guess is I will still bid 4d as rkc for clubs.....may end up in 6nt...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 One thing is for sure I cannot bid 4d as natural....given that this problem has never come up in 35 yearsGiven the auction to 4♣, I think it's quite common for opener to be two-suited. The fact that responder has enough high cards for a positive makes it less likely that opener's 2♣ was based purely on high cards, and therefore more likely that he is distributional. The third hand from this thread:http://forums.bridgebase.com/index.php?showtopic=26275provides a real-life example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 I think what is popular is that a minor positive response show 6 carder with 2 of the top 3, its pretty much impossible to stop short of slam on this deal. 2C----3C4C (extras k or A ?)-------4D no4H Q of S?---------------4S no5D Q of D ?--------------5H no6C. On a bad day 6S is going to make and 6C fail but the opposite is also true if i bid S and partner has 3 spades without the Q. Ive really think that you need some sort of leaping michael to deal with 2 suiters after a 2C opening. These strong 5-5 happen all the time their frequency are way higher than any splinter you could have. There is nothing more pathetic than 2C----2S (S pos)3H----??? is a new suit natural or a cuebid agreeing H ? 2C-----3C3S-----??? opener can have 6-5 and its going to be tough. etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 Vul: they are, you're not. W: J8 Q974 2 KQJ642E: AK643 AJ AKJ3 A7 Methods are 2/1. Please assume that E opens 2C in fourth seat. Any thoughts ? Passe - 2C (1)3C (2) - 4NT (3)5D (4) - 5H (5)6C (6) - Passe (7) (1) artificial(2) pos., showing a good suit, at least 6 cards, KQxxxx min(3) RKCB(4) 1KC(5) Queen Ask + specific king ask(6) no Queen and / or side king(7) ... maybe I should have gone slower With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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